ATG XIs with the Best Slip Cordons

[Thala_0710]

Whom would you put in the cordon and how do you rank each countries' slip cordons in their ATG XIs?
We'll take @capt_Luffy's ATG XIs here for reference for each country.

Afghanistan XI	Australia XI	Bangladesh XI	England XI
1. Ibrahim Zadran	1. Bob Simpson	1. Tamim Iqbal	1. Jack Hobbs
2. Noor Ali Zadran	2. Matthew Hayden	2. Liton Das +	2. Len Hutton *
3. Rahmat Shah	3. Don Bradman *	3. Mominul Haque	3. WG Grace
4. Hashmatullah Shahidi	4. Steve Smith	4. Habibul Bashar	4. Wally Hammond
5. Asgar Afghan *	5. Greg Chappell	5. Shakib Al Hasan	5. Joe Root
6. Rahmanullah Gurbaz +	6. Keith Miller	6. Mushfiqur Rahim	6. Ian Botham
7. Mohammad Nabi	7. Adam Gilchrist +	7. Mahmudullah Riyadh	7. Alan Knott +
8. Rashid Khan	8. Shane Warne	8. Mehidy Hasan Miraz	8. Jim Laker
9. Amir Hamza	9. Bill O'Reilly	9. Mashrafe Mortaza *	9. Fred Trueman
10. Naveed Zadran	10. Denis Lillee	10. Mustafizur Rahman	10. James Anderson
11. Yamin Ahmadzai	11. Glenn McGrath	11. Taijul Islam	11. Sydney Barnes
India XI	Ireland XI	Newzealand XI	Pakistan XI
1. Sunil Gavaskar	1. Peter Moor	1. Glenn Turner	1. Hanif Mohammad
2. Virender Sehwag	2. Andrew Balbirnie *	2. Burt Sutcliffe	2. Saeed Anwar
3. Rahul Dravid	3. Ed Joyce	3. Kane Williamson *	3. Younis Khan
4. Sachin Tendulkar	4. Harry Tector	4. Martin Crowe	4. Javed Miandad
5. Virat Kohli	5. Kevin O'Brien	5. Ross Taylor	5. Inzamam ul Haq
6. Rishabh Pant +	6. Lorcan Tucker +	6. BJ Watling +	6. Mushtaq Mohammad
7. Ravindra Jadeja	7. Curtis Campher	7. Chris Cairns	7. Mohammad Rizwan +
8. Kapil Dev *	8. Andy Mcbrine	8. Daniel Vettori	8. Imran Khan *
9. Ravichandran Ashwin	9. Mark Adair	9. Richard Hadlee	9. Wasim Akram
10. Mohammad Shami	10. Tim Murtagh	10. Trent Boult	10. Saqlain Mushtaq
11. Jasprit Bumrah	11. Barry Mccarthy	11. Jack Cowie	11. Waqar Younis
South Africa XI	Sri Lanka XI	West Indies XI	Zimbabwe XI
1. Barry Richards	1. Sanath Jayasuriya	1. Gordon Greenidge	1. Grant Flower
2. Graeme Smith *	2. Dimuth Karunaratne	2. Conrad Hunte	2. Hamilton Masakadza
3. Jacques Kallis	3. Kumar Sangakkara	3. George Headley	3. Murray Goodwin
4. Graeme Pollock	4. Mahela Jayawardene *	4. Brian Lara	4. David Houghton *
5. Dudley Nourse	5. Aravinda de Silva	5. Viv Richards *	5. Andy Flower +
6. Aubrey Faulkner	6. Angelo Mathews	6. Garry Sobers	6. Brendan Taylor
7. John Waite +	7. Prasanna Jayawardene +	7. Clyde Walcott +	7. Sean Williams
8. Shaun Pollock	8. Chaminda Vaas	8. Malcolm Marshall	8. Paul Strang
9. Hugh Tayfield	9. Rangana Herath	9. Joel Garner	9. Heath Streak
10. Dale Steyn	10. Lasith Malinga	10. Curtly Ambrose	10. Blessing Muzarabani
11. Allan Donald	11. Mutthiah Muralitharan	11. Lance Gibbs	11. Kyle Jarvis

 

[capt_Luffy]

A Great idea for a thread! I will go:

AFG: Shah, Shahidi, Ibrahim, gully: Afghan
AUS: Simpson, Chappell, Smith, gully: Warne
BANG: Hoque, Rahim, Bashar, gully: Mahmudullah
ENG: Hammond, Botham, Root (Hutton when Botham bowling), gully: Hutton
IND: Gavaskar, Dravid, Kapil (SRT when Kapil bowling), gully: Jadeja
IRE: Moor, Balbirnie, Tector, gully: Campher
NZ: Taylor, Crowe, Williamson, gully: Cairns
PAK: Younis, Hanif, Inzamam, gully: Mushtaq Mo
SA: Kallis, Barry, Smith, gully: Nourse
SL: Jayawardene, Sangakkara, Mathews, gully: Karunaratne
WI: Sobers, Viv, Greenidge, gully: Lara
ZIM: Taylor, Houghton, Streak (G Flower when Streak is bowling), gully: G Flower/Masakadza



To Rank:

AUS, WI, ENG, SA, SL, IND, NZ, PAK, ZIM, BANG
Not sure about the other 2

 

[subshakerz]

A Great idea for a thread! I will go:

AFG: Shah, Shahidi, Ibrahim
AUS: Simpson, Chappell, Smith
BANG: Hoque, Rahim, Bashar
ENG: Hammond, Botham, Root (Hutton when Botham bowling)
IND: Gavaskar, Dravid, Kapil (SRT when Kapil bowling)
IRE: Moor, Balbirnie, Tector
NZ: Taylor, Crowe, Williamson
PAK: Younis, Hanif, Inzamam
SA: Kallis, Barry, Smith
SL: Jayawardene, Sangakkara, Mathews
WI: Sobers, Viv, Greenidge
ZIM: Taylor, Houghton, Streak (G Flower when Streak is bowling)

If ABD is not keeper he should be slips

 

[capt_Luffy]

If ABD is not keeper he should be slips

He is not in the XI (I know, yucky)

 

[Thala_0710]

A Great idea for a thread! I will go:

AFG: Shah, Shahidi, Ibrahim
AUS: Simpson, Chappell, Smith
BANG: Hoque, Rahim, Bashar
ENG: Hammond, Botham, Root (Hutton when Botham bowling)
IND: Gavaskar, Dravid, Kapil (SRT when Kapil bowling)
IRE: Moor, Balbirnie, Tector
NZ: Taylor, Crowe, Williamson
PAK: Younis, Hanif, Inzamam
SA: Kallis, Barry, Smith
SL: Jayawardene, Sangakkara, Mathews
WI: Sobers, Viv, Greenidge
ZIM: Taylor, Houghton, Streak (G Flower when Streak is bowling)

Put in a gully as well and rank them as cordons too

 

[Thala_0710]

I'd go:
Afg: Shah, Shahidi, Zadran and Nabi
Aus: Simpson, Chappell, Smith and Hayden
Ban: Bashar, Haque, Mahmudullah, Shakin
Eng: Hammond, Botham, Root, Hutton
Ind: Gavaskar, Dravid, Kohli, Tendulkar
Ire: Tector, Balbirnie, Joyce, Moor
Nz: Taylor, Crowe, Williamson, Hadlee
Pak: Younis, Hanif, Miandad, Mushtaq Mohammad
Sa: Kallis, Barry, Smith, Pollock
Sl: Jayawardene, Sanga, Mathews, Aravinda
Wi: Sobers, Viv, Greenidge, Lara
Zim: Willians, Flower, Taylor, Houghton

 

[capt_Luffy]

The Covers would be:

AFG: Nabi
AUS: Bradman
BANG: Shakib
ENG: Hobbs
IND: Kohli
IRE: McBrine
PAK: Anwar
SA: G Pollock
SL: Jayasuriya
WI: Hunte
ZIM: Goodwin

 

[capt_Luffy]

I'd go:
Afg: Shah, Shahidi, Zadran and Nabi
Aus: Simpson, Chappell, Smith and Hayden
Ban: Bashar, Haque, Mahmudullah, Shakin
Eng: Hammond, Botham, Root, Hutton
Ind: Gavaskar, Dravid, Kohli, Tendulkar
Ire: Tector, Balbirnie, Joyce, Moor
Nz: Taylor, Crowe, Williamson, Hadlee
Pak: Younis, Hanif, Miandad, Mushtaq Mohammad
Sa: Kallis, Barry, Smith, Pollock
Sl: Jayawardene, Sanga, Mathews, Aravinda
Wi: Sobers, Viv, Greenidge, Lara
Zim: Willians, Flower, Taylor, Houghton

Put Kohli out of the Slips!!!

 

[Thala_0710]

Put Kohli out of the Slips!!!

Was debating between him, Tendulkar and Kapil. Settled with the batters. Think he was quite good at his best, is of course athletic but not as safe as the other 2 maybe. I'll keep him for now though.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Was debating between him, Tendulkar and Kapil. Settled with the batters. Think he was quite good at his best, is of course athletic but not as safe as the other 2 maybe. I'll keep him for now though.

Think Kohli was a Great ground fielder but dropped waaayyyyy too many. It was jarring and at times felt there's a 50% chance he will drop. Feel he should be best at covers

 

[Thala_0710]

My rank would be:
1. Aus
2. Wi
3. Sa
4. Eng
5. Ind
6. Sl
7. Nz
8. Pak
9. Zim
10. Ire
11. Ban
12. Afg

 

[Thala_0710]

Think Kohli was a Great ground fielder but dropped waaayyyyy too many. It was jarring and at times felt there's a 50% chance he will drop. Feel he should be best at covers

Kapil was a very good ground fielder too though. I'd rather not tire him out in the slips and putting Kohli instead works imo

 

[capt_Luffy]

My rank would be:
1. Aus
2. Wi
3. Sa
4. Eng
5. Ind
6. Sl
7. Nz
8. Pak
9. Zim
10. Ire
11. Ban
12. Afg

Australia is ungodly Good

 

[Thala_0710]

Australia is ungodly Good

It really is. One of Warne/Hayden doesn't even get in

 

[capt_Luffy]

It really is. One of Warne/Hayden doesn't even get in

Even Don in the covers and they even don't have any major weaklings out there in the field

 

[Thala_0710]

Even Don in the covers and they even don't have any major weaklings out there in the field

That team would be a nightmare to play against. Even more so than the WI pace trio perhaps.

 

[peterhrt]

You could also try an all-time fielding team for each country, taking only fielding into account.

Last week Mike Atherton and Mel Jones named the following nine from all countries: Bland, Harper, Jadeja, Jordan, Glenn Phillips, Ponting, Rhodes, Symonds, and Mark Waugh.

Tom Graveney named this team covering the period 1946-82. Ten fielders, no bowler. Evans (wk), Simpson, Greig, Botham, Garner, O'Neill, Bland, Harvey, Lloyd, Lock.

In 2017 Andy Zaltzman selected a fielding team with a maximum batting average and minimum bowling average of 35. He wanted to make sure fielding was each man's strongest suit: Wasim Bari (wk), Bryan Young, Braund, Vic Richardson (capt), Adhikari, Jessop, Alec Bannerman, Darren Sammy (bowler), Chandana, Solkar, Endean. 12th man John Dyson.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Let me try:

Bowler: Roger Harper

Wicketkeeper: Godfrey Evans

Slips: Bob Simpson, Wally Hammond, Carl Hooper

Forward Short-leg: Eknath Solkar

Covers: Colin Bland

Mid-wicket: Derek Randall

Outfield: Jonty Rhodes, Roshan Mahanama, Andrew Symonds

 

[capt_Luffy]

How would you guys rank the 12 keepers? @Thala_0710

 

[Fuller Pilch]

In 2017 Andy Zaltzman selected a fielding team with a maximum batting average and minimum bowling average of 35. He wanted to make sure fielding was each man's strongest suit: Wasim Bari (wk), Bryan Young, Braund, Vic Richardson (capt), Adhikari, Jessop, Alec Bannerman, Darren Sammy (bowler), Chandana, Solkar, Endean. 12th man John Dyson.

Chris Harris must've been close.