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Trueman/Compton vs Anderson/Barrington

Better duo

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Johan

Johan

Hall of Fame Member
Trueman miles better than Anderson while Compton-Barrington is debateable (Yes, Coronis, please don't yell at me over this) so no brainer for me
 
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peterhrt

First Class Debutant
Johan said:
@peterhrt was Compton vs Barrington a debate back in the day? If there is enough data, who was rated higher?
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There was no debate when either were playing, or for several decades afterwards. During most of the second half of the 20th century Compton was generally considered the fifth best-ever English batsman after Grace, Hobbs, Hammond and Hutton.

Barrington was not rated highly even compared with his own contemporaries. Certainly behind Cowdrey and Dexter. When Cowdrey and Barrington faced the same fast bowlers in challenging conditions, Cowdrey seemed to have all the time in the world while Barrington hung on grimly.

Trueman ranked Barrington a tier below Compton and a couple of tiers below Hutton.

When the Centenary Test of 1977 encouraged a series of all-time England teams, Barrington was never mentioned even as a candidate. But come 2009 he takes his place in Cricinfo's team with seven out of ten judges' votes. There may have been some Statsguru revisionism, but also a reassessment by experienced journalists. David Frith said: Ken Barrington is often forgotten when England's best are being discussed - a criminal oversight.

There has been recent discussion about the 100 all-time world teams chosen by ex-players. Compton was picked in ten teams, all by contemporaries. Barrington got two votes. One was from Ian Healy who never saw him: I don't know too much about Ken Barrington but I wanted a gutsy Englishman in the top order.

The other was from Charlie Griffith: Not everyone appreciated the way he batted, but I just thought that Kenny was such a solid player. I rate Ted Dexter as a better attacking player, but he wasn't as consistent as Kenny. This is intriguing because Barrington averaged 33 when Griffith was in the opposition (23 in England), and also accused Griffith of throwing, threatening not to play against him.
 
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Coronis

Coronis

Hall of Fame Member
peterhrt said:
There was no debate when either were playing, or for several decades afterwards. During most of the second half of the 20th century Compton was generally considered the fifth best-ever English batsman after Grace, Hobbs, Hammond and Hutton.

Barrington was not rated highly even compared with his own contemporaries. Certainly behind Cowdrey and Dexter. When Cowdrey and Barrington faced the same fast bowlers in challenging conditions, Cowdrey seemed to have all the time in the world while Barrington hung on grimly.

Trueman ranked Barrington a tier below Compton and a couple of tiers below Hutton.

When the Centenary Test of 1977 encouraged a series of all-time England teams, Barrington was never mentioned even as a candidate. But come 2009 he takes his place in Cricinfo's team with seven out of ten judges' votes. There may have been some Statsguru revisionism, but also a reassessment by experienced journalists. David Frith said: Ken Barrington is often forgotten when England's best are being discussed - a criminal oversight.

There has been recent discussion about the 100 all-time world teams chosen by ex-players. Compton was picked in ten teams, all by contemporaries. Barrington got two votes. One was from Ian Healy who never saw him: I don't know too much about Ken Barrington but I wanted a gutsy Englishman in the top order.

The other was from Charlie Griffith: Not everyone appreciated the way he batted, but I just thought that Kenny was such a solid player. I rate Ted Dexter as a better attacking player, but he wasn't as consistent as Kenny. This is intriguing because Barrington averaged 33 when Griffith was in the opposition (23 in England), and also accused Griffith of throwing, threatening not to play against him.
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Much respect for Griffith.

Also wow just read Griffith was made a knight before Barbados snuck out of England’s clammy grasp, I’m presuming for cricketing reasons? If so the bar had gotten really low.
 
Johan

Johan

Hall of Fame Member
Apparently Compton wanted Barrington to keep his spot in 1955

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Though, became a little critical of Barrington's technique in the early 1960s, he thought he should've an alternate technique for English wickets than his style overseas.

Kenny also stole Brylcrem from him smh
 
Johan

Johan

Hall of Fame Member
not very sure Compton's reputation as a gentleman and a laid back person is really all that true after reading stories like this.
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Seems every bit as confrontational and stubborn as Trueman at times.
 
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