Peak Bumrah vs Peak Steyn

[govinda indian fan]

You have a draw a line some where out of 8 non-minnows teams. Quality keeps going down and some time you can see clear gap in qualiy just looking at W/L wihtout having watched single game. I do watch games and my observation about most periods not having more than 4-5 good teams is based on watching games.

Just take one your your cited periods,

There is a big drop in W/L when you go outside of 5. Now if you want to make a case that Pakistan, SL and WI have been good teams in 2020s then we just have to agree to disagree on what makes a good team.


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Oh boy we have been horrible test team post covid

 

[capt_Luffy]

Oh boy we have been horrible test team post covid

Can't think of any other team who had a solid 3 fixed in the Middle order, and all of whom turned into tailenders over night.

 

[Coronis]

Despite them being one of the worst batting sides in the world in the 2020’s I’m sure wickets against SA have huge weight because of the team being 2nd overall in W/L in the 2020’s.

 

[sayon basak]

Despite them being one of the worst batting sides in the world in the 2020’s I’m sure wickets against SA have huge weight because of the team being 2nd overall in W/L in the 2020’s.

Yeah that's a great point. W/L ratio is just too simplistic of a metric to determine strength of a batting/bowling side.

 

[Johan]

Despite them being one of the worst batting sides in the world in the 2020’s I’m sure wickets against SA have huge weight because of the team being 2nd overall in W/L in the 2020’s.

6/40 against South Africa at Centurion is definitely a far better feat for a pacer than 6/35 against Sri Lanka at Galle.

 

[capt_Luffy]

6/40 against South Africa at Centurion is definitely a far better feat for a pacer than 6/35 against Sri Lanka at Galle.

Is it though??

 

[Johan]

Is it though??

No it isn't, that's the whole point.

 

[Johan]

Bumrah is making this a serious discussion

 

[Thala_0710]

Bumrah is making this a serious discussion

I voted Bumrah for a reason aftere the AUS series

 

[Johan]

I voted Bumrah for a reason aftere the AUS series

I think this series will decide it for me.

 

[Thala_0710]

I think this series will decide it for me.

Fair

 

[capt_Luffy]

Yk what, I switched. Steyn better overall ofc but Bum Bum can keep the Peak (which tbf is also his whole career till now, just riddled with fitness issues).

 

[Arachnödouche2.0]

Bumrah's a more talented bowler and better at working out batsmen across conditions.

 

[kyear2]

Bumrah's a more talented bowler and better at working out batsmen across conditions.

Quite possibly, yeah.

 

[subshakerz]

Bumrah's a more talented bowler and better at working out batsmen across conditions.

Pound for pound Bumrah is better no doubt thanks to his consistency but Steyn had a decade taking 5WPM.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Bumrah is clearly the better bowler while Steyn clearly had the better career

 

[kyear2]

Bumrah is clearly the better bowler while Steyn clearly had the better career

Not sure if he's better, but purely quality wise I have him with Hadlee, Steyn and Ambrose, squarely in that tier.

 

[smash84]

Bumrah is outrageously good. Even with a career hampered by so much injury and having played so few matches he is already top 3 Asian fast bowler of all time (if not top 2 already). Just a few more series of keeping this up and he might well be the GOAT.

 

[kyear2]

Is there any doubt he's the best Asian fast bowler?

Easily "better" than Wasim or Imran.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

EbaGOAT exists.