You're not making any sense, why does Geoffrey (who is just a marginally worse Sunny) replicating Hobbs's feat to an extent make it any less impressive? that's like saying Mushtaq replicating Sachin's feat makes Sachin's achievement less impressive.
I'm saying Geoffrey accomplishing something in FC that hasn't been replicated at test level or even approaching that makes me see it as not quite as impressive an achievement as originally indicated, and by extension Hobbs achievement too.
You are making it sound like Boycott **** his pants in tests.
No but I suspect he ain't scoring those runs at 45 years old in an actual test match.
Don't remember.
You're free to suspect.
1. Hobbs was averaging 58 in Test Cricket after crossing the age of 40.
My suspicion is that in these games when cricket was played on a schedule exhaustively those greats weren't pushing themselves to the same level, and lesser bats got out cheap to their skill while others like Boycott could stick around and do better than they would on test level.
..... Given opposition, based on??
Shut up you idiot. Who are you to question? Be grateful that you are alive, and move on.
Boycott averaged 32 in that Ashes. But I am not minimizing his achievements in tests.
There is nothing to be grateful about for being alive. Being alive sucks
Age and actual test match pressure.
Yeah but that is against Dennis Lillee and Terry Aldermann combined, in England, and he was the opener, with that in context he performed okay, also count in the other test where he made a fifty and a not out hundred.
Seems like a copout after you have made such a compelling case for Boycott as an opener against top attacks and critiques Gavaskar for the same.
Sunny would do that as well. They were very good friends.
If you find the case compelling then you're welcome to have that stance, I'm at a point where I don't really care if one has Sunny>Geoffrey or Geoffrey>Sunny, I'm just more comfortable lumping Geoffrey with Barrington and Dravid for now.
I think you secretly think Boycott was better. This isn't any evidence that Gavaskars supposed strokemaking was as big a match factor as Boycott actually scoring better against top pace attacks.
Actually, Geoffrey is one of the three players in history of English Cricket to average higher than Joe Root against spin, the other two are Sir Walter Hammond and Ken Barrington, this also claims that Root averages over 65 against spin bowling!
cricviz.com
Hmm still don't see why Gavaskar over him then but you do you...Actually, Geoffrey is one of the three players in history of English Cricket to average higher than Joe Root against spin, the other two are Sir Walter Hammond and Ken Barrington, this also claims that Root averages over 65 against spin bowling!
Joe Root: How To Play Spin in Test Cricket - CricViz
CricViz Analysts Ben Jones & Freddie Wilde examine what makes Joe Root one of the modern game’s best players of spin.
only a very small 19% of Geoffrey's dismissals come against spin bowling, for the likes of Sehwag it's 24%, 22% for Lara and 31% for Sachin and so forth.
I generally do think Geoffrey is criminally underrated as a Red Ball Batsman and there's not much between him and Chappell, still think he's a bit off that tier in general due to his tendency to let bad balls go, which even Hutton said was ridiculous. His RPI is also a little low due to his early career and final years, not that it is a very big issue for the elite openers but still.