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Weekes v Barrington v Viv Richards (rank in order)

Rank in order as greater Test batsmen

  • Weekes > Barrington > V. Richards

  • Weekes > V. Richards > Barrington

  • Barrington > Weekes > V. Richards

  • V. Richards > Weekes > Barrington

  • Barrington > V. Richards > Weekes

  • V. Richards > Barrington > Weekes


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kyear2

Hall of Fame Member
Was initially surprised to see the vote for Barrington, then remembered Coronis.

But with regards to Weekes, he played that series in Australia on one leg after an injury that didn't heal properly. Not an excuse, but some context.

He was an attacking enterprising batsman, who yes, cashed in on flat home pitches, but he was almost always on the attack.
 

ataraxia

International Coach
lol. I have never said anything about Richards being inferior or hell even close to Weekes. He is easily top 3 Windies batsman of all time. I don’t even think ranking him 3rd (as I do) is that controversial, as most people would have Sobers/Lara/Viv in their top 10 bats of all time.

Obvs the controversial part comes from the others I rate above Viv.

Also lol @ seeing people rate Weekes > Barrington.

He was both a HTB and a minnow basher.
promptly rates Viv below Barrington
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Wow I actually have a fairly normal opinion on this ranking despite rating Viv far less than most on here.
 

kyear2

Hall of Fame Member
If you vote Barrington over Viv you're clearly out just to prove a point.

Barrington, really?
 

Coronis

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
If you vote Barrington over Viv you're clearly out just to prove a point.

Barrington, really?
I’m not proving any point.

Barrington, really.

Accept that people have different views and there are legitimate reasons to have other players over Viv.
 

kyear2

Hall of Fame Member
I’m not proving any point.

Barrington, really.

Accept that people have different views and there are legitimate reasons to have other players over Viv.
I do accept that persons have greatly varying views, I have plenty. But if I said Hayden was better than Bradman, wouldn't stop you from commenting on it. I'm not telling you what to think or even trying to convince you of anything.
There are reasons to have plenty players over Viv, Barrington isn't one of them.
 

Coronis

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I do accept that persons have greatly varying views, I have plenty. But if I said Hayden was better than Bradman, wouldn't stop you from commenting on it. I'm not telling you what to think or even trying to convince you of anything.
There are reasons to have plenty players over Viv, Barrington isn't one of them.
Lets see, better century rate, better conversion rate, fewer ducks, better home record, better away record, better bowler, record didn’t diminish with age. But yeah its impossible
 

Johan

Hall of Fame Member
Anyway, IVA Richards is clearly number one.

Between Weekes and Barrington, I think most probably Weekes doesn't have the career to be better than Barrington, he was unquestionably rated higher and it wasn't even close, man was deemed a monster by both Sobers and Bradman but he was healthy for only one of his three away assignments, a thigh and hand injury in Oceania in 1951, that was promptly exploited by Ray Lindwall and Keith Miller with a ruthless bouncer barrage that would make Roy Gilchrist blush. Of Course, the Sinusitis tour to England in 1957, where he was under the knive for five times in a few months span, and that is not a good thing, throughout the tour it resulted in constant migraine, constant pain, everlasting exhausion and double/blurred vision, none of that is ideal when facing the attack of Fred Trueman, Brian Statham, Trevor Bailey, Jim Laker and Tony Lock. Though, he did play some great knocks this tour, there was the flashes of brilliance, he made a 90 against England that Denis Compton termed "an inning of pure genius", a 64 against the almighty Surrey team of the 1950s when Loader, Bedser and Laker were bowling and another hundred against Trueman, Tyson, Wardle and Bailey. But Obviously, he was too far from best physical condition to keep it up consistently.

Regardless, I don't count these serieses against him, infact the 90 and 105 in 1957 in such poor health I regard as quite good, but sadly that means Weekes only has one tour of England when healthy, where he averaged 56 in 4 matches, 3 half centuries and 1 century, averaged 80 in the tour overall including First Class. But that's it for his away work. Nothing in Australia sadly. He also retired at 32-33 so ofcourse the injury problem was permanent, Barrington just seems like a more proven player and more importantly, more reliable and less injury prone, and if that matters for bowlers, it should also matter for batsmen.
 
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DrWolverine

International Captain
Weekes averages 24 in Australia( 5 Tests).

Weekes averages 33 in England - Avg of 56 in a 4 Test series in 1950 & Avg of 19 in 5 Test series in 1957

I do not think averaging 60 in NewZealand and 111 in India in the late 1940s and 1950s is a big deal.
 

Johan

Hall of Fame Member
Weekes averages 24 in Australia( 5 Tests).

Weekes averages 33 in England - Avg of 56 in a 4 Test series in 1950 & Avg of 19 in 5 Test series in 1957

I do not think averaging 60 in NewZealand and 111 in India in the late 1940s and 1950s is a big deal.
As I said, He had injury problems in Australia in 1951 with his thigh and hand, you would find that he failed in New Zealand right after too, and was in terrible health in England in 1957, he had five surgeries on that tour. Regardless, I agree that Weekes doesn't have much volume of work away from home but those two tours are not reflective of his ability at full output.
 

ma1978

International Regular
@ma1978 seriously didn't expect you to have Barrington over Weekes
I think they are both fine players (and from everyting I understand fine people) whose averages flatter them, and are just out of that tier A elite group of batters because of length of career, unique accomplishments etc. I think Barrington had fewer soft runs than Weekes.
 

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