DrWolverine
International Vice-Captain
We are obviously comparing test careers. Otherwise we would have to include Barry Richards as well.
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Top 50 Greatest test batters
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DrWolverine
International Vice-Captain
It’s from 2014. So Smith’s peak would have started sometime around that time.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yeah despite a long decline he still ended up with great overall stats outside India
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
5 years but he was worldclass essentially for 8 years. Which is longer than Kohli or Smith or Viv.
Imagine scoring nearly 70 at a near mid 60s SR.
Johan
International Coach
I lived through the peak, I don't think the quality of runs is that good (2003 BGT, West Indies serieses at the time) and I don't think there's any 8 year stretch where he averaged 70.
all in all, he doesn't do anything to really seprate himself from Sangakkara, Root and Kallis career wise.
DrWolverine
International Vice-Captain
DrWolverine
International Vice-Captain
That’s true
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I already said it's fine for him to be grouped with them.
DrWolverine
International Vice-Captain
My current opinion
GOAT : Don Bradman
Tier 1 : Hobbs. Hutton. Sobers. Viv. Sachin. Smith.
Tier 2 : Sutcliffe. Hammond. Headley.Sunny. Lara.
Tier 3 : Ken. Chappell. Ponting. Kallis. Sanga. Root.
GOAT : Don Bradman
Tier 1 : Hobbs. Hutton. Sobers. Viv. Sachin. Smith.
Tier 2 : Sutcliffe. Hammond. Headley.Sunny. Lara.
Tier 3 : Ken. Chappell. Ponting. Kallis. Sanga. Root.
capt_Luffy
Hall of Fame Member
Hey, Root's away record in Australia being heavily criticized, while comparing him with Ricky "Harbhajan's bunny in India" Ponting is top tier Irony, which sadly is completely lost in so many.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I mean we get nobody is pretending Pontings India problem doesnt exist otherwise he would be a top ten bat.
sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
Don't think so tbh.
capt_Luffy
Hall of Fame Member
Nope.
kyear2
Hall of Fame Member
Think Kallis and Punter easily tops Root as well.
Johan
International Coach
don't agree at all
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Playing well against Australia, especially in Australia, should basically be the benchmark achievement for any halfway decent test playing batsman. They've been consistently the best test playing country in history, and you can count on one hand the number of eras where they've ever been outside the top two or three sides in the world. Of course it's a huge thing if you suck against them because generally speaking, especially over a career the length of Root's, they are more likely to consistently challenge you than any other country.
You poor people don't get it. If Australia is ranked two, the team is seen as weak and not up to standard. That's how it should be if you have decent standards. Three or lower and it's a national embarrassment. Again, as it should be.
The WSC-era test side and that of the mid-80s (except of course for TOTAB) rightly had their citizenships revoked, only to be reinstated once they began performing after the 87 WC and 89 Ashes. If you're an Australian and you consistently played mediocre-to-**** against England over a career for as long as Root has against Australia, you'd be nothing more than an embarrassing footnote, a stubborn piece of old chewing gum to be scraped off the sole of the shoe of Australian cricket.