sayon basak
International Coach
How is that even mention worthy? Grace's reputation is on par with Don, not with these mortals.
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Johan
Hall of Fame Member
what a scorecard, Hammond doing Hammond things.
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DrWolverine
International Captain
WG Grace was the sport’s first superstar.
DrWolverine
International Captain
How good was he compared to his peers?
Not by popularity or peer acclaim. I mean actual achievements..
Not by popularity or peer acclaim. I mean actual achievements..
kyear2
Hall of Fame Member
Bradman
Tendulkar
Richards
Sobers
Hobbs
Smith
Lara
Hutton
Richards
Hammond
Gavaskar
Chappell
Ponting
Categories.
Genuine Best after Bradman
Best after Bradman lite, with a caveat, still best of era.
Elite ATG, never best of era.
kyear2
Hall of Fame Member
Yes. Easily.
DrWolverine
International Captain
Why have you rated Hobbs below Sachin, Viv & Sobers?
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
Greatest sub 50 performance ever?
www.espncricinfo.com
WI vs ENG Cricket Scorecard, 1st Test at Bridgetown, January 08 - 10, 1935
Get cricket scorecard of 1st Test, WI vs ENG, England tour of West Indies 1934/35 at Kensington Oval, Bridgetown, Barbados dated January 08 - 10, 1935.
www.espncricinfo.com
kyear2
Hall of Fame Member
Should have mentioned that, meant to but forgot.
Purely in terms of greatness Hobbs is easily no. 2. He was further ahead of his peers than any of the others. He was also the outlier in a bowling era.
But I also rate the BAB strictly in terms of best bowlers faced. I've explained it before, but it's confusing.
DrWolverine
International Captain
Weird scorecard.Greatest sub 50 performance ever?
WI vs ENG Cricket Scorecard, 1st Test at Bridgetown, January 08 - 10, 1935
Get cricket scorecard of 1st Test, WI vs ENG, England tour of West Indies 1934/35 at Kensington Oval, Bridgetown, Barbados dated January 08 - 10, 1935.
For those who are lazy to open the link
DrWolverine
International Captain
This is the issue for me for some of yesteryear greats like Jack Hobbs or Sydney Barnes.
Outside of Don, no one is that far ahead of his peers like Jack Hobbs but we have no idea about the quality of competition back then.
sayon basak
International Coach
Nobody dominated peers like he did, probably not even Don.
DrWolverine
International Captain
Same with Hammond & Gavaskar.
I think Hammond is greater/better but I do not think he faced anywhere close to the bowling Sunny did.
I think Hammond is greater/better but I do not think he faced anywhere close to the bowling Sunny did.
DrWolverine
International Captain
I think you are referring to his first class tests.
His test career started at 32 and ended at 51.
sayon basak
International Coach
It'd be stupid not to.
I don't think you understand that FC was really important back then. He was already a giant before his first test.
DrWolverine
International Captain
That’s what I am asking.
Is there a list of first class statistics back then?
I am curious to know how far ahead he was of his peers
sayon basak
International Coach
@Johan post his stats compared to others after the end of 1873 season.