Dennis Lillee vs Sunil Gavaskar

[Johan]

leaning team 2, Flower is NOT keeping to Murali.

 

[sayon basak]

I picked post war names.

Kallis?

 

[DrWolverine]

I forgot

 

[DrWolverine]

Gavaskar
Hutton
Dravid
Barrington
Kallis
Border
Flower
Hadlee
McGrath
Murali
Ambrose

Greenidge
Hayden
Viv
Ponting
Lara
Sobers
Gilly
Marshall
Warne
Steyn
Lillee

I like Team 1 more
Team 2 would probably win.

 

[Johan]

Now, I've some disagreements, I think Ambrose and McGrath are more "balanced", they weren't always aggressive or defensive minded. won't say Marshall was default aggressive either.

 

[sayon basak]

Flower and Murali is a deadly combo.

 

[DrWolverine]

Gavaskar
Hutton
Dravid
Barrington
Kallis
Border
Flower
Hadlee
McGrath
Murali
Ambrose

Regardless of the quality of bowler, dismissing these batsmen out twice is not going to be easy.

 

[DrWolverine]

Flower and Murali is a deadly combo.

I think Flower is untested against quality spin but I think he can manage since he will less workload and very less pressure or we could go for Ian Healy.

 

[sayon basak]

I think Flower is untested against quality spin but I think he can manage since he will less workload and very less pressure or we could go for Ian Healy.

Flower ain't reading Murali.

 

[DrWolverine]

Yes. Flower was untested against good spin.
We could always go for Ian Healy as the keeper.

 

[Johan]

Excluding Bradman

Defensive XI

Herbert Sutcliffe
Sunil Gavaskar
Len Hutton
Ken Barrington
Jacques Kallis
Allan Border
Alan Knott
Richard Hadlee
Alan Davidson
Muttiah Muralitharan
Joel Garner

Aggressive XI

Gordon Greenidge
Matthew Hayden
IVA Richards
Ricky Ponting
Brian Lara
Garfield Sobers
Adam Gilchrist
Shane Warne
Dale Steyn
Fred Trueman
Dennis Lillee

Team 2 has better bowling in my opinion while 1 has better batting.

 

[DrWolverine]

Sunny. Hutton. Dravid. Barrington. Kallis. Border.

They would put audiences to sleep but dismissing them twice is going to take a lot of work.

 

[sayon basak]

Sunny. Hutton. Dravid. Barrington. Kallis. Border.

They would put audiences to sleep but dismissing them twice is going to take a lot of work.

Those audiences should stick to T20's imo.

 

[Johan]

Hobbs should be in the aggressive team maybe but he's probably more balanced.

 

[DrWolverine]

Excluding Bradman

Defensive XI

Herbert Sutcliffe
Sunil Gavaskar
Len Hutton
Ken Barrington
Jacques Kallis
Allan Border
Alan Knott
Richard Hadlee
Alan Davidson
Muttiah Muralitharan
Joel Garner

The batting is too strong. Maybe I would replace Jacques Kallis with Steve Waugh who I feel is better against pace.

 

[Coronis]

Hobbs should be in the aggressive team maybe but he's probably more balanced.

Going through exactly whats available, I’ve done Hobbs’ SR’s pre and post war.

Pre War: 61.45
Post War: 45.81

This change in his batting became marked in the 1922 County Season suffering from aftereffects of his acute appendicitis and following surgery, and his habit of getting out after reaching 100 became common. (His last test series before this, the first Ashes series post-war he struck at 57 - in a series which England lost 5-0 he stood tall). I’m guessing also 39 is a pretty natural point for your batting slowing down.

 

[Johan]

Going through exactly whats available, I’ve done Hobbs’ SR’s pre and post war.

Pre War: 61.45
Post War: 45.81

This change in his batting became marked in the 1922 County Season suffering from aftereffects of his acute appendicitis and following surgery, and his habit of getting out after reaching 100 became common. (His last test series before this, the first Ashes series post-war he struck at 57). I’m guessing also 39 is a pretty natural point for your batting slowing down.

Very Nice Job, so he was aggressive before the war and then a balanced player in his later years.

 

[Coronis]

Very Nice Job, so he was aggressive before the war and then a balanced player in his later years.

Not sure I would say that. I’d say he was still a similar player after the War til his appendicitis and afterwards became much more defensive, but still capable of flashes of his old brilliance.

 

[ma1978]

Defensive. Alternate XI

Hanif Mohammed
Bruce Mitchell
Younis Khan
Kepler Wessels
Misbah Ul Haq (c)
Mushtaq Mohammed
Shaun Pollock
Alan Knott
Craig Mcdermott
Neil Wagner
Bapu Nadkarni

Offensive Alternate XI

Virender Sehwag
Sanath Jayasuriya
Majid Khan
Harry Brook
Kevin Pietersen
Rishabh Pant
Basil D’Oliveira
Chris Cairns
Kapil Dev (c)
Kagiso Rabada
Shoaib Akhtar

 

[subshakerz]

Now, I've some disagreements, I think Ambrose and McGrath are more "balanced", they weren't always aggressive or defensive minded. won't say Marshall was default aggressive either.

Defensive as in their primary mode of dismissal was containment of batsmen.