Sachin. Sobers. Smith.

[subshakerz]

If pressure is your argument, you should rate bats who performed against opponents of comparable strength higher. Who is under more pressure- a player involved in a missmatch, where their own performance won't change the result, or one in a tight game whose performance will?

Pretty sure a bat facing McWarne has more pressure than facing Wagner and Southee. It isn't even close. In fact this is so obvious I don't think I have to argue it.

And you are assuming every game against average opposition is tight. You are basically adding an extra variable there.

A big why strong teams dominate is they create more pressure. Again this is obvious man.

 

[Bolo.]

Pretty sure a bat facing McWarne has more pressure than facing Wagner and Southee. It isn't even close. In fact this is so obvious I don't think I have to argue it.

And you are assuming every game against average opposition is tight. You are basically adding an extra variable there.

A big why strong teams dominate is they create more pressure. Again this is obvious man.

No, facing a great attack is harder. A tight game is higher pressure. You think bats have expectation weighing them down when AUS have declared @ 600 and they are 15 wickets down for 300? See ODI WCs.

I'm obviously not saying that all games between two similar teams will be tight. Just that they will be tight more often.

 

[subshakerz]

No, facing a great attack is harder. A tight game is higher pressure. You think bats have expectation weighing them down when AUS have declared @ 600 and they are 15 wickets down for 300? See ODI WCs.

Well the top 4/5 are going to have unbelievable pressure just to survive.

I'm obviously not saying that all games between two similar teams will be tight. Just that they will be tight more often.

Maybe but a greater attack is more pressure every game.

So I am rewarding those capable of higher pressure performances.

 

[sayon basak]

From SR to pressure. Nice.

 

[Johan]

Viv sucks

Thank You for your time.

 

[govinda indian fan]

Viv sucks

Root sucks more

 

[Johan]

Root sucks more

Yeah I guess Root is like 2% below Viv as a Batter.

 

[govinda indian fan]

Yeah I guess Root is like 2% below Viv as a Batter.

king viv is ten times batter root is

 

[subshakerz]

Viv sucks

Thank You for your time.

Only compared to Bradman.

 

[Johan]

king viv is ten times batter root is

Root averages more than Viv btw, 50.87 vs 50.24, so much for ten times better.

 

[Johan]

Only compared to Bradman.

and Sachin

and Hobbs

and Sobers

 

[govinda indian fan]

Root averages more than Viv btw, 50.87 vs 50.24, so much for ten times better.

Root would decline soon

 

[Johan]

Root would decline soon

Nah, he'd pass the 16,000 test runs mark while averaging more than Viv.

 

[sayon basak]

Root sucks more

Whom does he suck tho?

 

[Bolo.]

Well the top 4/5 are going to have unbelievable pressure just to survive.


Maybe but a greater attack is more pressure every game.

So I am rewarding those capable of higher pressure performances.

All you are saying in this post is that better attacks are better. Pressure is not a relevant part of this conversation, except for attacks that relied on pressure. Bats didn't feel much pressure facing Steyn, but he got them out.

 

[subshakerz]

and Sachin

and Hobbs

and Sobers

I mean I rate him behind Hobbs and Sachin.

Pretty certain at this point he is better than Sobers though.

 

[subshakerz]

All you are saying in this post is that better attacks are better. Pressure is not a relevant part of this conversation, except for attacks that relied on pressure. Bats didn't feel much pressure facing Steyn, but he got them out.

Pressure faced was my point on why that is a better measure than match result for player assessment...and to say bats didn't face pressure facing Steyn is a gross exaggeration.

 

[Johan]

I mean I rate him behind Hobbs and Sachin.

Pretty certain at this point he is better than Sobers though.

Nah, Sobers smokes him, the output gap between them is the same as between Viv and Gower.

 

[Bolo.]

Pressure faced was my point on why that is a better measure than match result for player assessment...and to say bats didn't face pressure facing Steyn is a gross exaggeration.

Your argument is that better bowling is better. That's just a bit circular.

 

[sayon basak]

Your argument is that better bowling is better. That's just a bit circular.

Could you summarize your argument please? I'm having a hard time keeping track of the arguments, sorry.