***Official*** Pakistan in Australia 2023/24

[Spark]

Renshaw's brought a toothpick to the crease today.

 

[Starfighter]

A bit of reverse swing for both bowlers. Probably the only time it'll be seen all tour.

 

[social]

Yeah I agree. Even during that bad patch around the wc/ashes he didn't look out of form to me, I honestly thought he looked pretty good, particularly in that 1st ashes test. Just kept on having brain fades after getting in.

Nobody denies that tests are hard but nobody outside the Marsh family believes that Mitch has a higher ceiling than Green either

I find it strange/shortsighted that they have rushed him in as a replacement

 

[Starfighter]

I still think the problem Green has is they're trying to turn him into a fast scoring number six when that's not how he scores his runs.

 

[Starfighter]

I hate to somewhat agree with the silly people on a certain other forum when it comes to the fast bowling, but if you are going to take mediocrities with little test experience to Australia, you may well try take taller, bouncier types.

 

[Justo]

Personally I don't think Green's suited to number 6 at all in Tests. While capable of aggressive play he typically starts slow. He has shown some success at international level (across all formats) so I don't think it's a mental issue. In limited overs formats I think he's been impacted by being shunted around the lineup and not having an opportunity to establish himself.

I think position 6 is even more of a problem playing for the current Australian line up where at home or on flat pitches the top 5 typically have 350+ on the board before he gets a bat. There's very little upside in that situation. Otherwise the only opportunities he gets are typically when the top 5 are in trouble with barely 150 on the board. He has batted quite well in partnerships with Khawaja in those situations but not otherwise.

 

[Spark]

Trend through the game of only getting wickets with absolute garbage continues

 

[Starfighter]

Damn. Would have liked another big score from Green.

 

[Nintendo]

I don't think green hit that one he got given out on, TBH. Sounded like bat hitting the ground but I could be stupid.

Edit: That was also pretty synyonyms of his international batting in this slump. When he gets in he finds a really stupid way to get himself out.

 

[social]

No concrete evidence for this but it doesn’t seem like the selectors really want Bancroft & would welcome an alternative

Renshaw can put himself in the box seat here

 

[Starfighter]

The oughta just try some declaration bowling and get in some more batting practice. All the bowlers have had a decent run so they're not learning anything.

 

[honestbharani]

He was one of the uncles wasn't he?

He is

 

[ashley bach]

Personally I don't think Green's suited to number 6 at all in Tests. While capable of aggressive play he typically starts slow. He has shown some success at international level (across all formats) so I don't think it's a mental issue. In limited overs formats I think he's been impacted by being shunted around the lineup and not having an opportunity to establish himself.

I think position 6 is even more of a problem playing for the current Australian line up where at home or on flat pitches the top 5 typically have 350+ on the board before he gets a bat. There's very little upside in that situation. Otherwise the only opportunities he gets are typically when the top 5 are in trouble with barely 150 on the board. He has batted quite well in partnerships with Khawaja in those situations but not otherwise.

He's probably got the ability to claim the spot but he seems hell bent on playing all out defence.
Cam you're a ****ing giant, get your foot to the pitch of the ball and smack the **** out of it.
But nah he's happy to continue plodding along at a strike rate equal to none other than Jacques Kallis.

 

[Qlder]

In this "bat-off" Renshaw has faced more balls than Bancroft and Harris combined. Looks like the future Aussie top 3 will all be Qlders

1. Khawaja
2. Renshaw
3. Labuschagne

 

[Nintendo]

In this "bat-off" Renshaw hasfaced more balls than Bancroft and Harris combined. Looks like the future Aussie top 3 will all be Qlders

1. Khawaja
2. Renshaw
3. Labuschagne

Renshaw also averages 15 more than Bancroft and 20-25 more than Harris in the past 12 months of fc cricket.

 

[Spark]

In this "bat-off" Renshaw has faced more balls than Bancroft and Harris combined. Looks like the future Aussie top 3 will all be Qlders

1. Khawaja
2. Renshaw
3. Labuschagne

Even if you don't think strike rates/attacking play matters that much in Tests, you have to say that Khawaja Renshaw Labuschagne Smith is not the world's most captivating top four now that Smith too is batting at a crawl a lot of the time in Test matches.

 

[ashley bach]

Renshaw still with everything to prove at test level, he's looked pretty ginger there so far.

 

[Qlder]

Renshaw also averages 15 more than Bancroft and 20-25 more than Harris in the past 12 months of fc cricket.

As much as I prefer Renshaw over Bancroft I'm pretty sure this is not true.

In Shield Bancroft averaged 59 last year and 57 this year. Yes he did poorly in 4 County games and 2 Aus-A games but that doesn't drop him below Renshaw who's averaging 31 in shield this year (plus he had the nightmare in India)

 

[GoodAreasShane]

Ton up now for Renshaw

A bit torn in a way, on one hand I think he is just a better bat than either Bancroft or especially Harris, so him being picked to replace Warner when he goes based off this wouldn't be a bad result taken in isolation. However, I have always deeply loathed the concept of having a "bat-off" for Test selection, making such an important decision should not at all come down to such a small sample size

 

[Spark]

I honestly don't see this game as overly meaningful tbh. The pitch is so **** and the attack thoroughly pedestrian that it's hard to weight these runs too seriously so long as you spend a decent amount of time at the crease.