Adorable Asshole
International Regular
Shakib is a better bat than Jadeja
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Ben Stokes vs Shakib Al Hasan
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BazBall21
International Captain
I'd say so. Think some people get carried away on Jadeja's batting. His average flatters him.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
I think as a pure batsman, Shakib is better than Jadeja but Jadeja plays his role perhaps better than Shakib does, or at least more consistently than Shakib does.
Adorable Asshole
International Regular
Changing my vote to Shakib. I underestimated his bowling load.
Chin Music
State Captain
Re his bowling stats. When you remove Zimbabwe and Windies 2009 series with their 3rd XI, his bowling average moves up above 33. He actually hasn't padded his stats against the very weak teams quite so much with the bat, but as I said, he really hadn't played against the better pace attacks enough to say he was that outstanding.
Fuller Pilch
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Who? Name names. Perhaps Root and Anderson. I can't think of anyone else in the current test team. Brook might be in 7-8 years.
What do consider modern-day?
BazBall21
International Captain
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BazBall21
International Captain
There aren't 30 better England cricketers than Shakib since 1970. And Fuller Pitch was quite right when he pointed out the volume of tests Moeen Ali has played as that obviously eradicates the fallacy that Shakib wouldn't have played many tests in an England jersey.
I do however believe that the fact some players have to play the big boys a lot more than others sometimes goes under the radar because there's an increasing stigma against contextualising averages. And that isn't being checklist-y by any means. It's pretty basic. Gooch opened in 60% of his 215 test innings' against Australia and Windies, all in pace-orientated countries. The only attack that wasn't strong there was the 85 Ashes. The Windies were unrelentingly ferocious and he averaged 45. Averaged above fifty across other opposition but he didn't play them as often. I would say he is better than Shakib. Hard to compare specialists to all rounders though.
I do however believe that the fact some players have to play the big boys a lot more than others sometimes goes under the radar because there's an increasing stigma against contextualising averages. And that isn't being checklist-y by any means. It's pretty basic. Gooch opened in 60% of his 215 test innings' against Australia and Windies, all in pace-orientated countries. The only attack that wasn't strong there was the 85 Ashes. The Windies were unrelentingly ferocious and he averaged 45. Averaged above fifty across other opposition but he didn't play them as often. I would say he is better than Shakib. Hard to compare specialists to all rounders though.
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stokes
root
Anderson
Broad
Brook (admittedly on talent)
Cook
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Bell
trott
Flintoff
Hoggard
Harmison
Vaughan
Treacothick
Thorpe
Hussain
Atherton
Stewart
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Gooch
Gower
Smith
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Boycott
Knott
Underwood
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Botham
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Greig
Adorable Asshole
International Regular
you may laugh but which of these names is worse than Shakib
Adorable Asshole
International Regular
Hoggard
250 wickets at a 56 strike rate in an extreme batting era
critical role inwinning the 2005 ashes, winning not being a word in Shakib’s lexicon
Adorable Asshole
International Regular
Also a better bowler than Dennis Lillee.
Coronis
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
sayon basak
International Coach
It's definitely Shakib. Stop trolling yourselves.
PlayerComparisons
International Captain
I would add Woakes to that list