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Stumped!

Charlie B

U19 Vice-Captain
Strong leg work JoJo and you are really doing some great work in incorporating thoughts, views and opinions in your planning and communication (thank you)

At the end of the day you ain't gonna please all of the people all of the time and it has to be workable for you to run - like you say we get time to suck it in - I'm personally not a fan of the IPL method - however for me that's just personal preference - and it is not a question of it being unfair or unreasonable - (it's just a matter or choice/fashion and therefore not a show stopper) - so far everything looks on track from that perspective.

At first i thought it was a bit harsh of Z***x to say the lowest ranked team doesn't get to play, but on reflection maybe that is fair enough as it acts as an incentive for managers to play Stumped to the best of their ability and raise their ranking so they are not in that position (it is probablya good rule going forward when we find ourselves in the position of having an 'odd team out' (though I'd suggest if the worst team is the only team a manager manages then it would be the lowest ranked team of a manager who has 2 teams that is 'dropped out of the balloon)

PS I had no idea that CWC was such a serious force in Stumped DEV - we have 12 teams placed in the Top 100 !
 

ataraxia

International Coach
Overall Ranking​

CWC Ranking​

Team Name​
12​
1​
The Merry Orangutans​
13​
2​
Charminster CC​
14​
3​
Jura CC​
34​
4​
Dynamo Schmaltzberg​
54​
5​
Moooo​
55​
6​
GG CC​
57​
7​
Ashgrove Astronauts​
72​
8​
The Wild Geese​
75​
9​
Zor*x CC​
79​
10​
Free HK​
93​
11​
AtaraX Wellington​
96​
12​
Winton CC​
117​
13​
AtaraXIa​
134​
14​
Honest Hunks​
158​
15​
Dynamo Morpork​
173​
16​
Plymouth Pirates​
201​
17​
The Net Theorists​

Will do it based on seedings at the time of the draw but if rankings remain the same - could throw up some very interesting groups, Free HK and Zor*x CC as 3rd seeds, Dynamo Morpork and Ataraxia as 4th seeds.

Also at time of doing draw I'll keep affiliates seperated, I'll put teams drawn in 1st available group that doesn't have their affilate in.
Dev rankings lol. I love it this way tbh - hope AX-W get into top half of draw.

On Charminster's 13th placing: it is Asia but winning your first three matches in 1.1 is pretty special! Similarly, AXI are 17th in the T20 WRs -- it's not that hax a side; we've just been lucky in 1.1.
 

Charlie B

U19 Vice-Captain
Hi Guys - what does ' Anyname is keeping cool under pressure' mean when a guy is bowling (and stated before he has even bowled his first ball!) thanks
 

StephenZA

Hall of Fame Member
Hi Guys - what does ' Anyname is keeping cool under pressure' mean when a guy is bowling (and stated before he has even bowled his first ball!) thanks
Player normally has the Iceman trait... indicating he is a cool customer in a pressure situation! What it means in practice for stumped only the Devs know!
 

cnerd123

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'pressure' is a variable that is determine by match situation and player's experience, and that impacts their batting and bowling ability and thus the final outcome.

Icemen experience less pressure
 

JOJOXI

International Vice-Captain
Unless there is any dissenting voices I'll set competition up on Saturday evening UK time and give a week or so for people to join respective Divs.

So I`m gonna suggest a different format. 16 teams (I`m happy for TNT to drop out).

4 groups of 4 round robin (based on current dev rankings), home and away. Played quickly we can have 3 matches a week be done in two weeks. Top two from each group then move into a 8 player round robin. Bottom 2 from groups move into a lower bracket round robin. This means that the strongest and weakest teams are mostly separated early and there is a more competitive group 8 stage round robin. We can slow that down to two matches a week?

We can then have top four from top of group 8 stage straight into semi-finals. Else we can have the number 3 and 4 in 'top' group play against 1 and 2 in second group and that can decide semis against the top two from group 1 (similar to this last season). The second might be worth it because dev teams change over the season! It depends if you want it to be about long term success or team success at that point!

I also don't think we play matches (unless people really want to!) for 13th and 14th place etc. I understand it is meant to be inclusive. But if you have an eliminator matches, semi's and final's (possibly 3rd/4th) can be done quickly without having all these other games going on that people are less interested in. Its not like stumped stops and people are not involved in other tournaments. (Or just need a break!). It should just not drag.

Its a classic sort of format but the classics work!
I've quoted the above so people can look over it if they have not already done so. To clear up a couple of areas that have been discussed since idea posed.

* There will be 'Traditional' semi-finals, 1st v 4th, 2nd v 3rd.
* There will be no cross-over between top and 2nd division after initial 4 groups of 4 round robin. So top 4 of 2nd div will go into 2nd div semi-finals and top 4 of Top div will go into the top div semi-finals.

I'm presuming given no one has mentioned it everyone is happy with 3 matches a week for initial round-robin and 2 matches a week thereafter.


@cnerd123 @Charlie B @JOJOXI @Jarquis @Magrat Garlick @StephenZA @honestbharani @ataraxia @SillyCowCorner1
 

Charlie B

U19 Vice-Captain
Unless there is any dissenting voices I'll set competition up on Saturday evening UK time and give a week or so for people to join respective Divs.



I've quoted the above so people can look over it if they have not already done so. To clear up a couple of areas that have been discussed since idea posed.

* There will be 'Traditional' semi-finals, 1st v 4th, 2nd v 3rd.
* There will be no cross-over between top and 2nd division after initial 4 groups of 4 round robin. So top 4 of 2nd div will go into 2nd div semi-finals and top 4 of Top div will go into the top div semi-finals.

I'm presuming given no one has mentioned it everyone is happy with 3 matches a week for initial round-robin and 2 matches a week thereafter.


@cnerd123 @Charlie B @JOJOXI @Jarquis @Magrat Garlick @StephenZA @honestbharani @ataraxia @SillyCowCorner1
All good with me - thank you
 

JOJOXI

International Vice-Captain
Apart from myself and Honest Hunks dropping down a place in overall rankings (neither of which imapct CWC rankings/seedings) rankings from my post on previous page remain the same.


Have done the draw and almost made it through to the end with no one getting into each others groups - until the final 2 teams with Ataraxia originally 4th in randomised list of 4. Dynamo Morpork 3rd in list took the next available group - Group D leaving Ataraxia in Group C.



GROUP A: The Merry Orangutans, Moooo, AtaraX Wellington, Honest Hunks
GROUP B: Charminster CC, GG CC, Zor*x CC, Plymouth Pirates
GROUP C: Dynamo Schmaltzberg, The Wild Geese, Free HK, AtaraXIa
GROUP D: Jura CC, Ashgrove Astronauts, Winton CC, Dynamo Morpork

I will set up the groups and put links in here in next 30mins
 

JOJOXI

International Vice-Captain
GROUP A: The Merry Orangutans (@StephenZA), Moooo (@SillyCowCorner1), AtaraX Wellington (@ataraxia), Honest Hunks (@honestbharani)
https://www.stumpedgame.com/ViewFriendlyComp.php?CompID=157 = Pool A


GROUP B: Charminster CC (@JOJOXI), GG CC (@SillyCowCorner1), Zor*x CC (@cnerd123), Plymouth Pirates (@Jarquis)
https://www.stumpedgame.com/ViewFriendlyComp.php?CompID=158 = Pool B


GROUP C: Dynamo Schmaltzberg (@Magrat Garlick), The Wild Geese (@Charlie B), Free HK (@cnerd123), AtaraXIa (@ataraxia)
https://www.stumpedgame.com/ViewFriendlyComp.php?CompID=159 = Pool C


GROUP D: Jura CC (@Charlie B), Ashgrove Astronauts (@Jarquis), Winton CC (@JOJOXI), Dynamo Morpork (@Magrat Garlick)
https://www.stumpedgame.com/ViewFriendlyComp.php?CompID=160 = Pool D
 
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JOJOXI

International Vice-Captain
Am I wrong in saying Group D seems like the group of death?
Dynamo Morpork putting out teams of 42/43k match ratings in recent DEV games so seems like they are a bit out of position re their ranking. Looking like it'll be a high quality group!
 

cnerd123

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seriously tempted to sign on a few CWC specialists for ZCC. Our current squad is crap lol.

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Testing out CWC6 combinations. Daylight between the two sides.
 
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JOJOXI

International Vice-Captain
seriously tempted to sign on a few CWC specialists for ZCC. Our current squad is crap lol.

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Testing out CWC6 combinations. Daylight between the two sides.
Yeah I had presumed given the force your sides normally are in CWC that your Zor*x side would be stronger, I went a bit too strong with my line-up for our recent DEV friendly in hindsight.
 

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