The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[GoodAreasShane]

Patto/Reid/Bichel/MacGill would have been a damn fine attack for guys who didn't play as much test cricket as the could have. I would personally add Mark Cameron to that list as well, but unfortunately footage of Cameron bowling is not easy to come across

 

[stephen]

Patto/Reid/Bichel/MacGill would have been a damn fine attack for guys who didn't play as much test cricket as the could have. I would personally add Mark Cameron to that list as well, but unfortunately footage of Cameron bowling is not easy to come across

Sub Harris in for Bichel. Bichel can be 12th man, which seems appropriate.

 

[trundler]

Another great almost partnership would be Sutcliffe and Hutton.

 

[jimmy101]

Sub Harris in for Bichel. Bichel can be 12th man, which seems appropriate.

That would make Bichel a shoe-in for the second Test after one of the aforementioned gets struck down with the inevitable injury.

 

[trundler]

Sadly, we live in a world where Ishant Sharma is unbreakable but guys like Reid and Akhtar can't get through a series.

 

[GoodAreasShane]

Yeah now that I think Rhino should definitely be in the starting XI. His career trajectory was a bit different though, started off as a journeyman medium fast seamer, about 5th in line for the Redbacks behind Dizzy, Sloon, Paul Rofe and Mark Cleary. It wasn't his last season here in Adelaide that he really started being genuinely quick.

 

[jimmy101]

The cricketing world is filled with injusticies.

I for one don't mind Ishant. Loved him when he first appeared on the scene (probably cause I used to be tall skinny rake much like he was). And I admire him for his longevity. For quite a number of years now he's been India's go-to guy when the chips are down.

 

[Prince EWS]

Patto/Reid/Bichel/MacGill would have been a damn fine attack for guys who didn't play as much test cricket as the could have. I would personally add Mark Cameron to that list as well, but unfortunately footage of Cameron bowling is not easy to come across

I think I actually recorded some that never ended up on YouTube. I'll see if I can find it.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

I found this interesting

80s Indian Odi team.

Best captain
Best Bowler
Best Fielder
Best Batsman

All 4 titles belong to Kapildev.

Its unique. Anyone else? Sobers in 60s (tests)??

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

I found this interesting

80s Indian Odi team.

Best captain
Best Bowler
Best Fielder
Best Batsman

All 4 titles belong to Kapildev.

Its unique. Anyone else? Sobers in 60s (tests)??

Jason Holder

 

[Bolo]

Possibly Clive Rice in the 80s

 

[harsh.ag]

I found this interesting

80s Indian Odi team.

Best captain
Best Bowler
Best Fielder
Best Batsman

All 4 titles belong to Kapildev.

Its unique. Anyone else? Sobers in 60s (tests)??

Srikkanth was better, definitively.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Srikkanth was better, definitively.

1984 Jan 1
Kapil Rank 8
Srikanth 38

1985 jan 1
Kapil 10
Srikanth 31

1986 jan 1
Kapil 12
Srikanth 20

(Vengsarkar 10)

1987 jan 1
Kapil 11
Srikanth 20

1988 jan 1
Kapil 10
Srikanth 23

1989 Jan 1
Kapil 13
Srikanth 15


I dont know the details, but it seems like

Kapil
Vengsarkar
Gavaskar
Srikanth

In this order. (Azhar joined in late 80s)

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Kapil as Odi batsman
1982 - 88

1982
28.75 at 123 in 9 matches

1983
37.6 at 106.7 in 18 matches

1984
25.25 at 93.5 in 6 matches

1985
29.2 at 100 in 15 matches

1986
27 at 103 in 27 matches

1987
37.33 at 113 in 21 matches

1988
22 at 97.35 in 19 matches

This is better than 75% of specialist batsmen of the time, i think.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Possibly Clive Rice in the 80s

Better Bowler than Garner?

 

[marc71178]

Better Bowler than Garner?

Possibly not but then again, neither was Kapil.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Possibly not but then again, neither was Kapil.

Sorry, i read Rice as lloyd for some reason.

And, I dont think Rice was better bowler than the likes of Le Roux, Vander Bijl.. Etc

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Yeah.. Possibly. Nobody knows for sure.

 

[AndrewB]

Sorry, i read Rice as lloyd for some reason.

And, I dont think Rice was better bowler than the likes of Le Roux, Vander Bijl.. Etc

I wouldn't rate him above Jimmy Cook or Peter Kirsten) as a batsman, either (and Pollock was still playing until 1988).

Sobers I'd have thought most people would rate below Hall and Gibbs, although his versatility is obviously a bonus. (And with him gifting England a series not everyone rates him that highly as a captain).

 

[stephen]

I'm sure that Shakib has had that title on multiple occasions.