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Significance of the 'second innings denial' effect.

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Mr Miyagi

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Don't overthink it. We're not using extreme numbers or anything here. This is a practical example.
Be pratical then. Feathers will sit on bricks better than bricks will sit on feathers.


Would you agree that as long as their individual numbers stay within the about same magnitude the amount of weight that I put on the table in feathers is insignificant compared to that of the bricks? Yes or no?
No, if you put the feathers on first, the bricks will be unstable. :P

What feathers are you using? Moa, or chicken? What size bricks?

I really need more details here.

You seem to take a broad brush to everything, an assumption brush if you will...
 
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Starfighter

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Be pratical then. Feathers will sit on bricks better than bricks will sit on feathers.

No, if you put the feathers on first, the bricks will be unstable. :P
Your're not answering the question. You are so close to what I'm trying to get at. There are no caveats. Is the weight of a number of feathers significant compared to roughly the same number of bricks?
 

Mr Miyagi

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Your're not answering the question. You are so close to what I'm trying to get at. There are no caveats. Is the weight of a number of feathers significant compared to roughly the same number of bricks?
What do the bricks weigh and what do the feathers weigh on average each? Which are laid down first?

You assume far too much for my liking. Ask more questions. ;)
 

TheJediBrah

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Runs on the board and competition for wickets are both significant.

/thread

/theory
If that's your theory then no one ever disagreed with that and you were told that literally dozens of times

Where you were wrong was the insistence that playing in a weaker team = lower wpm, which we know is false
 

Mr Miyagi

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The only person being obtuse here has a Colin de Grandhomme avatar at the current time.
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Taking their time right behind my back

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Starfighter

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What do the bricks weigh and what do the feathers weigh on average each? Which are laid down first?/QUOTE]
Which are laid down first does not matter in this scenario.

Suppose you have 40 2 kg bricks and 46 0.5 g feathers. Is the mass of the feathers significant, in a practical sense, compared to the mass of the bricks?
 

Mr Miyagi

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If that's your theory then no one ever disagreed with that and you were told that literally dozens of times

Where you were wrong was the insistence that playing in a weaker team = lower wpm, which we know is false
If you agree with my theory then you're wrong. Because Streak is below Anderson and Broad. Hadlee is below Murali. And I can keep on going all day :)

It goes both wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyys.

Batting strength is not bowling strength. They're independent.
 

Mr Miyagi

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What do the bricks weigh and what do the feathers weigh on average each? Which are laid down first?/QUOTE]
Which are laid down first does not matter in this scenario.

Suppose you have 40 2 kg bricks and 46 0.5 g feathers. Is the mass of the feathers significant, in a practical sense, compared to the mass of the bricks?
Depends - which are you laying first and what is the volume area of the feathers if laid first :P

Seriously. Try harder. :P
 

Starfighter

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Depends - which are you laying first and what is the volume area of the feathers if laid first :P

Seriously. Try harder. :P
I already said that those do not matter. This is a simple mass to mass comparison.

Now answer the question with a 'yes' or a 'no'.
 

Mr Miyagi

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I already said that those do not matter. This is a simple mass to mass comparison.
But the physical attributes of feathers and bricks are different. So they do matter. Feathers will be more unstable under weight, as against brick (if both are laid correctly).

Is your pillow full of bricks, or feathers?
What about your head :ph34r: (I'm sorry, its just a joke to make the point). :P I'm sure you don't have bricks in your head.
 
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TheJediBrah

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If you agree with my theory then you're wrong. Because Streak is below Anderson and Broad. Hadlee is below Murali. And I can keep on going all day :)

It goes both wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyys.

Batting strength is not bowling strength. They're independent.
Jfc you can't be serious
 

Starfighter

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But the physical attributes of feathers and bricks are different. So they do matter. Feathers will be more unstable under weight, as against brick (if both are laid correctly).

Is your pillow full of bricks, or feathers?
What about your head :ph34r:
Ahem, don't edit on me please.
 

Mr Miyagi

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Ahem, don't edit on me please.
Sorry, I will edit as I see the need. It isn't personal. It is just me. I edit.

But I'll always admit where I have. I don't like straw men from typos so I edit :P

Not to mention I loathe my grammatical errors. It is a weakness I suffer.

My logic is outstanding, but my grammar needs constant improvement, if I say so myself.

The irony is, and maybe only Burgey appreicates this, I can write glorious submissions, but my letters and opinons get cloudy. I know the difference is active sentences. But I still fall into the trap of thinking faster than I write. I try my best :( I really hate it. I'm not perfect.
 
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TheJediBrah

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If hadlee played for 00s Australia instead of his NZ team do you think he'd have a higher or lower wpm?
 

Mr Miyagi

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If hadlee played for 00s Australia instead of his NZ team do you think he'd have a higher or lower wpm?
Most likely lower for Straya (but his average and sr would prolly drop more drastically with more 4th innings bowling).

If he had played for Sri Lanka in 00's or England in 2010's with more batting, even higher.

;)

#goes both ways.

Lets move onto 4th innings already. I am so bored with wpm.
 
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TheJediBrah

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Most likely lower for Straya (but his average and sr would prolly drop more drastically with more 4th innings bowling).

If he had played for Sri Lanka in 00's or England in 2010's with more batting, even higher.

;)

#goes both ways.

Lets move onto 4th innings already. I am so bored with wpm.
Wpm was the entire basis of the whole argument. No one disagreed with anything else. You've played yourself.
 

Mr Miyagi

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Wpm was the entire basis of the whole argument. No one disagreed with anything else. You've played yourself.
No you have played yourself.

Two independent variable that are discrettttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttte.

You just lost by agreeing with me. Both are signifcant.

Try again JediBrah.

I'm right. Or I am wrong. I couldn't give a toss about Hadlee vs McGrath when I'm explaining every single leading bowler ever ;)

whoop ;)

You're beyond obsessed with McGrath and Warne vs Murali and Hadlee you forgot about Hadlee vs Murali - let alone Streak.

Two limiting factors. Runs and wickets. What is true for Streak is true for Hadlee is true for Murali is true for McGrath. All bowlers suffer the same limits, the variable is how much.
So until someone averages 20wpm - you're wasting my time. Your time. And anyone who's reading time.
 
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TheJediBrah

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None of those other comparisons are meaningful. It's entirely speculation. We have statistical evidence regarding McGrath and hadlee and it was a perfect comparison.Thats why it was focused on.

Your theory is either obvious and irrelevant, or demonstrably wrong, depending on which you decide it to be at any given time. It's pointlesd to discuss it with you.
 

Mr Miyagi

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None of those other comparisons are meaningful. It's entirely speculation. We have statistical evidence regarding McGrath and hadlee and it was a perfect comparison.Thats why it was focused on.

Your theory is either obvious and irrelevant, or demonstrably wrong, depending on which you decide it to be at any given time. It's pointlesd to discuss it with you.
You either agree with it or you don't.

Pick one.

I really don't care which you do.

Either way. I have already formed an opinion of you, as have everyone else reading this thread.

So don't worry about personalities, it is far too late for that.

I'm right. Or I'm wrong.

Say I'm wrong - I hit you the same logic and more facts. Like Starfigher accurately says, I can keep hitting you with more facts because I am correct.
 
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