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[Shri]

Dibs on 90s XI

 

[AndrewB]

An 1880's XI? #billybates

 

[Howe_zat]

i mean i'd play, but i still wouldn't understand the finals system

c.ref. my recent job interview

 

[kingkallis]

It's all very rough at this stage, but basically you'd have a situation where a 70's XI would take on an 80's XI, or maybe a 50's XI. Stuff like that.

And who will decide who gets which decade?

 

[Shri]

And who will decide who gets which decade?

Dibs

 

[jimmy101]

And who will decide who gets which decade?

Everyone will be free to choose what decade they want. But I will choose what players belong to which decade (to avoid arguments).

At the moment I'm thinking of opening 11 slots:

- 1800's
- 1900's & 1910's
- 1920's & early 1930's (no Bradman)
- late 1930's & 1940's
- 1950's
- 1960's
- 1970's
- 1980's
- 1990's
- 2000's
- 2010's (current day)

Seems like there a few people already keen on joining up. So I'll let people decide now which decade they want to choose. (Yes, Shri, you can have the 90's).

But don't post your squads here yet. Wait for me to begin a new thread which will contain rules and a list of players & which decade they belong to. Just pick a decade and post it here if you're keen to join in.

 

[jimmy101]

Also prepared to let more than 11 people play if that is the case. If we run out of decades then they can just pick a random squad with whoever they like in it, without being limited to a decade.

 

[Nate]

Are the countries varied too?

 

[jimmy101]

Are the countries varied too?

What do you mean bro?

 

[kingkallis]

1980 please

 

[jimmy101]

Ok, so here's a list of the best available players from each decade.

1800s

KS Ranjitsinhji, John Lyons, WG Grace, Stanley Jackson, Andrew Stoddart, George Giffen, Syd Gregory, Harry Trott, Billy Barnes, Charles Bannerman, Billy Bates, Hugh Trumble, Dick Barlow, Albert Trott, Bobby Peel, George Lohmann, Jack Blackham (+), Johnny Briggs, Charles Kortright, JJ Ferris, Charles Turner, Fred Spofforth, Tom Richardson, Joey Palmer, Thomas Wass

1900s/1910s

CB Fry, Victor Trumper, Reginald Foster, Monty Noble, Johnny Tyldesley, Aubrey Faulkner, Archie MacLaren, George Hirst, Gilbert Jessop, Wilfred Rhodes, Warwick Armstrong, Len Braund, Frank Laver, Reggie Schwarz, Jimmy Sinclair, Frank Foster, Albert Hopkins, Dick Pilling (+), Bert Vogler, Albert Cotter, SF Barnes, Bill Whitty, Jack Saunders, Colin Blythe

1920s/mid 1930s (No Bradman)

Vijay Merchant, Bill Ponsford, Herbert Sutcliffe, Jack Hobbs, Herbie Taylor, Bill Woodfull, Warren Bardsley, Mushtaq Ali, Clifford Roach, George Headley, Wally Hammond, Eddie Paynter, Patsy Hendren, KS Duleepsinhji, Phil Mead, Douglas Jardine, Charles Macartney, Archie Jackson, Ernest Tyldesley, Bruce Mitchell, Andrew Sandham, Stan McCabe, Joe Hardstaff, Jack Ryder, Les Ames (+), Lala Amarnath, Jack Gregory, Frank Woolley, Freddie Brown, Maurice Tate, Learie Constantine, Bert Oldfield (+), Bert Strudwick (+), Harold Larwood, Bill Voce, Hedley Verity, Cyril Vincent, Clarrie Grimmett, Bill O'Reilly, Arthur Mailey, Tich Freeman, Bert Ironmonger, Alfred Hall, Bill Bowes, Manny Martindale

Late 1930s/1940s

Stewie Dempster, Len Hutton, Arthur Morris, Sid Barnes, Eric Rowan, Dudley Nourse, Bill Edrich, Denis Compton, Vijay Hazare, Lindsay Hassett, Dudley Nourse, Jeffrey Stollmeyer, Keith Miller, Gerry Gomez, Godfrey Evans (+), Don Tallon (+), Ray Lindwall, Jack Iverson, Alec Bedser, Bill Johnston, Jack Cowie, Tufty Mann, Athol Rowan, Ernie Toshack

1950s

Hanif Mohammad, Bert Sutcliffe, Jackie McGlew, Vinoo Mankad, Imitaz Ahmed (+), Clyde Walcott (+), Everton Weekes, Frank Worrell, Polly Umrigar, Peter May, Neil Harvey, Vijay Manjrekar (+), John Reid, Collie Smith, Roy McLean, Richie Benaud, Trevor Bailey, Alan Davidson, Abdul Kardar, John Goddard, John Watkins, John Waite (+), Clive van Ryneveld, Fazal Mahmood, Hugh Tayfield, Frank Tyson, Jim Laker, Johnny Wardle, Fred Trueman, Peter Heine, Khan Mohammad, Brian Statham, Sonny Ramadhin, Subhash Gupte, Tony Lock, Neil Adcock, Alf Valentine, Ghulam Ahmed, Lindsay Kline, Jasu Patel, Don Shepherd

1960s

Bill Lawry, Bob Simpson, John Edrich, Conrad Hunte, Colin Cowdrey, Graham Dowling, Ian Redpath, Trevor Goddard, Eddie Barlow, Keith Stackpole, Farokh Engineer (+), Garfield Sobers, Graeme Pollock, Bob Cowper, Rohan Kanhai (+), Ken Barrington, Ted Dexter, MAK Pataudi, Seymour Nurse, Ken Mackay, Mushtaq Mohammad, Chandu Borde, Bapu Nadkarni, Basil d'Oliveira, Tom Graveney, Saeed Ahmed, Colin Bland, Dilip Sardesai, Intikhab Alam, ML Jaisimha, Bruce Taylor, Ray Illingworth, Rusi Surti, Peter Sainsbury, Peter Pollock, Dick Motz, Graham McKenzie, Wes Hall, Pervez Sajjad, Lance Gibbs, Roy Gilchrist, Charlie Griffith, Joe Partridge

1970s

Geoff Boycott, Barry Richards, Sunil Gavaskar, Glenn Turner, Roy Fredericks, Majid Khan, Dennis Amiss, Greg Chappell, Zaheer Abbas, Clive Lloyd, Ian Chappell, David Hookes, Doug Walters, Alvin Kallicharran, Mohinder Amarnath, Charlie Davis, Gundappa Viswanath, Keith Fletcher, Lawrence Rowe, Asif Iqbal, Mike Procter, Bevan Congdon, Tony Greig, Lee Irvine (+), Rodney Marsh (+), Alan Knott (+), Deryck Murray (+), Wasim Bari (+), Bob Taylor (+), Chris Old, Lance Cairns, Safraz Nawaz, Vince van der Bijl, Andy Roberts, Max Walker, Bob Willis, John Snow, Dennis Lillee, Jeff Thomson, Bishan Bedi, Erapalli Prasanna, Derek Underwood, BS Chandrasekhar, Srinivas Venkataraghavan, Bob Massie

1980s

Kepler Wessels, Jimmy Cook, Graham Gooch, Gordon Greenidge, Desmond Haynes, David Boon (+), Martin Crowe, Javed Miandad, Dilip Vengsarkar, Dean Jones, Sandeep Patil, Allan Border, Mike Gatting, Vivian Richards, Kim Hughes, Allan Lamb, Mudassar Nazar, Andrew Jones, Richie Richardson, Kim Hughes, Larry Gomes, Roy Dias, Graham Yallop, David Gower, JF Reid (+), Imran Khan, Ravi Shastri, Alan Kourie, Manoj Prabhakar, Clive Rice, Roger Harper, Franklyn Stephenson, Ian Botham, Kapil Dev, Richard Hadlee, Jeffrey Dujon (+), Ian Smith (+), Garth le Roux, Malcolm Marshall, Phillip DeFreitas, Abdul Qadir, Mervyn Hughes, Joel Garner, Craig McDermott, Michael Holding, Geoff Lawson, Sylvester Clarke, Iqbal Qasim, Colin Croft, Ewen Chatfield, Terry Alderman, Dilip Doshi, Patrick Patterson

1990s

Marvan Atapattu, Gary Kirsten, Saeed Anwar, NS Sidhu, Mark Taylor, Michael Atherton, Sanath Jayasuriya, Vinod Kambli, Sachin Tendulkar, Michael Bevan, Andrew Flower (+), Graeme Hick, Mark Waugh, Mohammad Azharuddin, Steve Waugh, Brian Lara, Inzamam-ul-haq, Hashan Tillakaratne, Aravinda de Silva, Carl Hooper, Salim Malik (+), Graham Thorpe, Daryll Cullinan, Arjuna Ranatunga, Stephen Fleming, Hansie Cronje, Nasser Hussain, Robin Smith, Nathan Astle, Jonty Rhodes, Alec Stewart (+), Jimmy Adams (+), Romesh Kaluwitharana (+), David Houghton (+), Ridley Jacobs (+), Chris Cairns, Moin Khan (+), Ian Healy (+), Rashid Latif (+), Lance Klusener, Brian McMillan, Heath Streak, Chaminda Vaas, Wasim Akram, Anil Kumble, Shane Warne, Darren Gough, Fanie de Villiers, Saqlain Mushtaq, Ian Bishop, Mushtaq Ahmed, Damien Fleming, Javagal Srinath, Curtly Ambrose, Waqar Younis, Allan Donald, Courtney Walsh, Angus Fraser, Danny Morrison, Glenn McGrath

2000s

Simon Katich, Matthew Hayden, Justin Langer (+), Graeme Smith, Virender Sehwag, Chris Gayle, Andrew Strauss, Mark Richardson, Marcus Trescothick, Herschelle Gibbs, Michael Vaughan, Tillakaratne Dilshan, Brendan Taylor (+), Darren Lehmann, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Rahul Dravid (+), Ricky Ponting, Jacques Kallis, Thilan Samaraweera, Michael Hussey, VVS Laxman, Mahela Jayawardene, Misbah-ul-haq, Kevin Pietersen, Damien Martyn, Michael Clarke, Mohammad Yousuf, Yuvraj Singh, Younis Khan, Sourav Ganguly, Ramnaresh Sarwan, Kumar Sangakkara (+), Adam Gilchrist (+), MS Dhoni (+), Brendon McCullum (+), Mark Boucher (+), Shane Watson, Andrew Symonds, Shoaib Malik, Paul Collingwood, Andrew Flintoff, Shaun Pollock, Shahid Afridi, Daniel Vettori, Graeme Swann, Jason Gillespie, Harbhajan Singh, Brett Lee, Shane Bond, Shoaib Akhtar, Lasith Malinga, Stuart MacGill, Mohammad Asif, Chris Martin, Simon Jones, Stephen Harmison, Zaheer Khan, Muttiah Muralitharan

2010s (Min 5 Tests played in ICC '13)

Hashim Amla, Gautam Gambhir, Murali Vijay, Alistair Cook, David Warner, Tamim Iqbal, Mohammad Hafeez, Usman Khawaja, Martin Guptill, Cheteshwar Pujara, Dinesh Chandimal (+), JP Duminy, Virat Kohli, AB de Villiers (+), Umar Akmal (+), Jonathan Trott, Ian Bell, Dean Elgar, Ashwell Prince, Jonny Bairstow (+), Steven Smith, Ross Taylor, Faf du Plessis, Azhar Ali, Darren Bravo, Eoin Morgan, Asad Shafiq, Angelo Mathews, Matthew Prior (+), Brad Haddin (+), Ravi Ashwin, Shakib Al Hasan, Ravi Jadeja, Marlon Samuels, Stuart Broad, Irfan Pathan, Vernon Philander, Mitchell Starc, Mitchell Johnson, Tim Southee, Ryan Harris, James Pattinson, Chris Tremlett, Peter Siddle, Wahab Riaz, Mashrafe Mortaza, Rangana Herath, Morne Morkel, Mohammad Aamer, Trent Boult, Ben Hilfenhaus, Nathan Lyon, James Anderson, Dale Steyn, Monty Panesar, Doug Bollinger, Saeed Ajmal, Steven Finn, Ishant Sharma

I realised as I began sort through the players game that there are far too many big names missing from the game (especially pre-WW2) for this to work. Therefore, I have included some invented players in the above list that I will assign values for based on their FC record, whilst using existing player values as reference points. Apologies if there are errors in this list, and if anybody wants to query me on a player in regards to their respective decade, or want to ask me about players who aren't on the list, fire away.

 

[kingkallis]

Murali in 90s is unfair. He took 565 wickets in 2000s. Same goes for McGrath. 90s already have some awesome fast bowlers so give 2000 this benefit.

 

[jimmy101]

Murali in 90s is unfair. He took 565 wickets in 2000s. Same goes for McGrath. 90s already have some awesome fast bowlers so give 2000 this benefit.

Murali I can agree with, I'll edit the list & put him in the 2000s.

Not so sure about McGrath though, I'd like to hear what other people think about McGrath.

Thanks for the feedback KK, everybody please feel free to suggest alterations to the list.

 

[mr_mister]

McGrath is tough because nearly exactly half his career was spent in the 90s and half in the 00s

but the 90s have more than enough ATG quickies to bulk up a team so im all for pushing him to the 00s

 

[mr_mister]

and if we're already picking our teams i'll take that juicy looking 20s-mid 30s option

 

[kingkallis]

Murali I can agree with, I'll edit the list & put him in the 2000s.

Not so sure about McGrath though, I'd like to hear what other people think about McGrath.

Thanks for the feedback KK, everybody please feel free to suggest alterations to the list.

McGrath played 124 test matches. He played 66 test matches in 2000s so thats more than 51%. 2000s deserves McGrath as 90s already have Ambrose, Danny Morrison, Donald, Akram, Waqar, Warne.

 

[kingkallis]

Sunil Gavaskar too played more than 55% cricket in 80s so he should go to the 1980s as well.

Gavaskar 124 test matches: 66 in 80s.

 

[kingkallis]

McGrath is tough because nearly exactly half his career was spent in the 90s and half in the 00s

but the 90s have more than enough ATG quickies to bulk up a team so im all for pushing him to the 00s

We can easily divide the games played in particular decade and give that particular player to the Drafter who is picking from that decade.

 

[jimmy101]

Sunil Gavaskar too played more than 55% cricket in 80s so he should go to the 1980s as well.

Gavaskar 124 test matches: 66 in 80s.

Sunil is another tough call. Even though he played more matches in the 80's, India played less Tests in general back in the 70's. He also played for 9 years in the 70's and 8 years in the 80's

No. of Tests played by India (1973 - 1975)

1973 - 4
1974 - 6
1975 - 2

We can easily divide the games played in particular decade and give that particular player to the Drafter who is picking from that decade.

The games played method is fair on an ostensible level, but I also think a player's peak & the decade in which they made the greatest impact should be factored in. For example, Miller & Lindwall played more Tets in the 50's, however Ray Lindwall slowed down his action in the 50's which prolonged his career. But by then he was no longer the tearaway quick by which we all remember him. The Miller/Lindwall partnership was at its strongest when both men were at their peak, in the 40's, immediately after WW2.

 

[kingkallis]

Sunil is another tough call. Even though he played more matches in the 80's, India played less Tests in general back in the 70's. He also played for 9 years in the 70's and 8 years in the 80's

No. of Tests played by India (1973 - 1975)

1973 - 4
1974 - 6
1975 - 2



The games played method is fair on an ostensible level, but I also think a player's peak & the decade in which they made the greatest impact should be factored in. For example, Miller & Lindwall played more Tets in the 50's, however Ray Lindwall slowed down his action in the 50's which prolonged his career. But by then he was no longer the tearaway quick by which we all remember him. The Miller/Lindwall partnership was at its strongest when both men were at their peak, in the 40's, immediately after WW2.

Will these factors be counted in sim? No. So why not to go with the statistics?