Smith V Hayden

[shankar]

Actually, at home he belts the crap out of Kumble.

It's really weird how Ponting has not succeeded in India. I can't really pin-point why. He's good against spin, he's played in similar conditions before and he's even belted the same team at home.

Kumble and Harbhajan have never been effective on non-turning pitches though. Kumble improved in the last phase of his career, but was still merely good on wickets without turn.

 

[Richard]

Actually, at home he belts the crap out of Kumble.

No, he doesn't. He may have belted the crap out of him, but a more accurate description would be that Kumble caused him no problems, as Ponting was noted in his risk-free approach to Kumble rather than looking to smash it.

Anyway, Kumble outside India has rarely been much of a challenge. Playing Kumble well in Australia doesn't say anything much about a player's spin-playing skill.

 

[Ikki]

And his failure against Ishant Sharma. A batsman of his calss shouldnt be getting out to a 20 yr old rookie, and that too consistently. Guess, it's called being outdone by some really good bowling.

Nah, Ponting has been brilliant against better bowlers and has fared worse against others that probably don't match upto him in comparison to the class of batsmen he is. It happens, nothing new nor trend-worthy there.

No, he doesn't. He may have belted the crap out of him, but a more accurate description would be that Kumble caused him no problems, as Ponting was noted in his risk-free approach to Kumble rather than looking to smash it.

Anyway, Kumble outside India has rarely been much of a challenge. Playing Kumble well in Australia doesn't say anything much about a player's spin-playing skill.

Considering he averages like 80 at home against India and Kumble is/was their prime bowler I think "belted" is apt.

Anyway, I wasn't replying to whether Kumble is good away, just that Ponting's problems haven't really been with Kumble and especially not so at home. But we're hi-jacking the thread.

 

[Precambrian]

Nah, Ponting has been brilliant against better bowlers and has fared worse against others that probably don't match upto him in comparison to the class of batsmen he is. It happens, nothing new nor trend-worthy there.



Considering he averages like 80 at home against India and Kumble is/was their prime bowler I think "belted" is apt.

Anyway, I wasn't replying to whether Kumble is good away, just that Ponting's problems haven't really been with Kumble and especially not so at home. But we're hi-jacking the thread.

Yeah, but doesnt make Ponting look any good, when he time and again fails to the same bowler. More of mental, than technical problem I think.

 

[Richard]

Considering he averages like 80 at home against India and Kumble is/was their prime bowler I think "belted" is apt.

Not really, it's only apt if you've scored very fast against them.

Anyway, I wasn't replying to whether Kumble is good away, just that Ponting's problems haven't really been with Kumble and especially not so at home.

No batsman of much note has had problems with Kumble away from India. Doing fine against Kumble at home is no achievement of much note, it's in India against him that it counts for something.

 

[Ikki]

Yeah, but doesnt make Ponting look any good, when he time and again fails to the same bowler. More of mental, than technical problem I think.

I agree. I can't pin-point what it is. Sharma just bowled excellently and would have gotten most batsmen out the way he got Ponting out. Harbhajan, though, I just don't understand.

Not really, it's only apt if you've scored very fast against them.

No batsman of much note has had problems with Kumble away from India. Doing fine against Kumble at home is no achievement of much note, it's in India against him that it counts for something.

Do you just look to argue with anything or anyone? For ****s sake.

 

[Precambrian]

Ponting can't either. He admitted that recently. SA will have a long and hard look at Ishant's bowling at Punter.

 

[Richard]

Do you just look to argue with anything or anyone? For ****s sake.

No, I just don't like people using inaccurate descriptions to try to make something look bigger than it is, whether they be big or small (like "I watched every ball of a series" or "he belted him" when he scored at 2.7-an-over or whatever - and yes I realise that Ponting's rate was quicker than that).

 

[PhoenixFire]

Do you just look to argue with anything or anyone? For ****s sake.

Taken you this long to figure that out?

 

[sledger]

Fairly obvious that Smitteh >> the most overated batsman ever.

 

[GIMH]

I heard that Smitteh averages 150 with the bat and 4 with the ball, he also took 11 catches in an innings once, managed to get two batsmen out in one ball

 

[sledger]

That's our Smitteh, he's too modest to admit to this of course, what a guy.

 

[GIMH]

Can't believe that this Hayden guy is even being comapred with him tbh

 

[Richard]

I'm beginning to realise why you guys were smackorthdoxed TBH.

Seriously, can the two of you be in the same place without heavenlyisation of Daniel Smith taking place?

 

[GIMH]

Yeah, we could heavenlyise each other instead tbh

 

[sledger]

Heard Smitteh destroyed the periodic table because the only element he recognises is surprise.

 

[Richard]

Hmm, I thought it was a nicetric myself that TBH, but iordine could've pulled it off easily. Sm33teh doesn't deserve any hydrogenic praise for it.

[Needs some chemists to pun here mind, hope we have one or two awake currently]

 

[Top_Cat]

Heard Smitteh destroyed the periodic table because the only element he recognises is surprise.

The ex-chemist in me loves the science in that, the Chuck Norris fan in me loves the 'fact'. Made my day.

 

[Richard]

Disappointed in you Corey ITBT, thought we could bank on you chlorine it back for the chemical punners. But no, you're the anti of on the mony.

 

[sledger]

There is no 'ctrl' button on smitteh's computer. smitteh is always in control.