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is/was. Depends whether you are talking about his whole career, or at the moment.is
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John Wright ODI record?
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I think there was a discussion about Jayasuriya, and Richard was claiming Nick Knight to be a better ODI batsman than him. As we've seen in the past, Strike Rates for batsman don't matter to Richard but Economy Rates for bowlers are the most important statistic.
Fiery
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Well if you want to argue about it ...we were talking about both really. He's still as good as he's ever been. You were talking about him in the past tense like you had travelled forward in time and he was a former player
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He was the first that sprang to my mind.
How about Andrew Symonds is better than Jayasuria, Astle and De Silva? No wait, he could argue that. Sehwag?
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My mistake then. Apologies.
Fiery
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Now that I didn't expect
Athlai
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in ODI cricket Symonds is probably. He's an ODI monster.
Prince EWS
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As much as I dislike him as a player; yes, Symonds is better than that other lot. Sehwag only averages about 32 himself so I don't see your point with him.
Richard
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I did say or so, and Astle and Aravinda both average no more than a fraction less. In any case, both had massive careers and one simple overall average is never going to tell you that much about either.
In the Jayasuriya case, he does average well over 35 as an opener, which combined with his strike-rate makes him a fantastic, fantastic player.
Richard
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Nick Knight's career is a better one than Jayasuriya's - has Jayasuriya gone to Australia, West Indies and South Africa and scored heaps of runs against said sides? No. Hence, I know which one I'd rather.
Richard
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Greatbatch was before my time but as I understand it he's particularly famous for one tournament and not much else.
Vincent is crap in ODIs AFAIC, you know my feelings here. Likewise McCullum. Sure, they've both played some decent knocks but you're bound to if you get enough chances.
McMillan always disappointed me, hugely. Should've done far more with his ODI career, often seemed more concerned about playing shots than scoring runs.
Oram was pretty awful until very recently, and hopefully the recent will continue from now on.
Cairns, Parore and Harris all averaged over 30 for much of their careers, and were all in any case lower-order batsmen, who will usually be forced into lower averages due to generally less time to bat.
Richard
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He could play innings that most people could not play, but there are many, many batsmen I'd take in front of him because he did not do it as often as many.
Somerset
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Richard
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Andrew Symonds, sadly, has done better than all of them these days.
But Sehwag doesn't even come close.
Richard
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As I said, though - Jayasuriya is famous as an opener, and in this role he does average around about 35 (someone could work it out without substandard sides if they want, I'd imagine it'll be just below 35).
Somerset
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Bit harsh on a few counts there as well. McMillan in the last 12 months could almost be regarded as out best ODI and 20-20 player. Oram as a batsman has been highly regarded for more than just "very recently". Cairns, Parore, Harris often came in at 6-7-8 and if they all averaged 35 that low in the order you'd hardly worry about a few early wickets lost. Cairns had and always will have a massive reputation and just because his average doesn't measure up shouldn't take any of that away.
Richard
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In the last 12 months, yes - sadly, he was a gross underachiever for most of the rest of his career.
He's been highly regarded, but it's only very recently that he's started to live-up to this in ODIs. For a long, long time he did nothing with the bat in said format.
I said that, didn't I?
I think it should, TBH - Cairns could IMO have done more, but of times got carried-away. Nonetheless, sometimes the situation (ie, coming in very late on) didn't help him.
Athlai
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About 34.
shortpitched713
International Captain
Which makes about as much sense as quantum muffins, tbh.
