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State & Future of New Zealand Cricket

Richard

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Prince EWS said:
I've seen him play some very good test knocks, but he clearly isn't cut out for the one day game. His ODD record is ordinary and his ODI record is awful - and it's not like he hasn't been given lots of chances, either.
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Oram in OD games for Central Districts: 47 innings, 1319 runs at 29.97.

Not brilliant, but certainly better than "ordinary".
 
Richard

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Dear oh dear... Australia's future must've looked bleak after 2 summers ago... and Pakistan's... and in fact everyone but Sri Lanka's ODI futures look pretty bleak at the mo...
 
Matt52

Matt52

U19 Vice-Captain
Lou Vincent is on 57no so far today so if he can get a bit of form then that might help to solve some problems ,.......or just add another confusing decision about where he should bat and the decision between him, Fulton, Marshall, McMillan, blah, blah, blah.....
 
Prince EWS

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Richard said:
The point was he's likely to get more chances high-ish in the order and therefore have more opportunities to change that #6 average.
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He has had several opportunities to do that so far though, and failed.

And, considering we were discussing why you had selected him in your lineup where you had, Vettori's presence at 5 was highly irrelevant as you didn't select him at 5 in your lineup.
 
Fiery

Fiery

Banned
vic_orthdox said:
More in reference to Tests, I'm guessing. Seeing as Slater was such an ordinary ODI player.
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Oh ok. Fair call then Richard. I suppose they scored at a similar rate but Saeed Anwar played with graceful timing whereas Slater was a more of a free-spirited power player
 
Richard

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Prince EWS said:
He has had several opportunities to do that so far though, and failed.

And, considering we were discussing why you had selected him in your lineup where you had, Vettori's presence at 5 was highly irrelevant as you didn't select him at 5 in your lineup.
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It was irrelevant compared to that, but it was not irrelevant considering Oram's chances of batting #6 in the future.
 
Prince EWS

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Richard said:
Well it's not outstanding. But if he were to have translated that into an average of say, 27 at ODI level that'd not be the worst.
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1. It still wouldn't be good enough.
2. He didn't do that anyway - he translated it into an average of 18 odd, which certainly isn't good enough.
 
Richard

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Fiery said:
Oh ok. Fair call then Richard. I suppose they scored at a similar rate but Saeed Anwar played with graceful timing whereas Slater was a more of a free-spirited power player
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Oh, quite, I didn't say they were carbon-copies but they did have something in common. That didn't, of course, translate to ODI success, Anwar being one of the best ODI openers of the modern era and Slater being pretty useless at one-day cricket.
 
Prince EWS

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Richard said:
It wouldn't be outstanding - for an allrounder it wouldn't be the worst.

He has so far - it can still go up.
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For an allrounder it would be fine, considering he is quite a good one day bowler, but that doesn't mean he should bat #6..
 
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