Step-by-step instructions for editing ICC with Magpie - Page 12

Neil Pickup · 21-01-2005, 05:53 AM

How good did you make yourself...

membersstand · 21-01-2005, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robertinho

Oh no.. I added myself, and I getting 150,000 pounds salary!! WTF!?!?

Yeh, that's the problem. Just put Aussie players into ENG and all need 100k+

Robertinho · 21-01-2005, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil Pickup

How good did you make yourself...

An all rounder with 63 batting skill and 111 bowling skill

Also, can you please explain the whole stock/strike bowler for me?

Hoggy31 · 21-01-2005, 06:40 AM

Im pretty sure a strike bowler is a bowler who will take wickets but will be expensive whereas a stock bowler will bowl more economically.

Neil Pickup · 21-01-2005, 06:46 AM

That would be it, then!

Mr Hoggy has it correct on stock/strike - average won't be changed significantly wherever you lie on the stock/strike spectrum, it's a tradeoff between Strike Rate and Economy Rate (stock).

SIX AND OUT · 21-01-2005, 07:15 AM

Hey guys -

I have been using the editor alot over the last few days/nights (i am writing this at 1:08 AEST) so I am very obsessed in using the editor.

I know that the "career history" is the source for saving errors, but I was just wondering, after 3 hours getting the Aus and Vic squad up and running, i decided that I will try to do the stats.

Now I did One player (Cameron White) and saved straight after, to see if the error came up, no, so I editored the whole victorian squad, and when I went to save it had the error.

I know it is unreliable and it is my fault for ruining the files, now from my own experience, when this happens, i cant run on "Single Career" in ICC and I can't ever edit again.

Now is that statement correct, or can you stop these errors without deleting files, and re installing ICC2002?

Another one of my main questions is -

If i can edit some successfully, what is the reason behind me getting the error on others. Is it a limited thing, or is it a certain detail row that I cant press, eg. Debut, and I have not gone anywhere near reset buttons at all.

I would appreciate if i could get answers to these questions.

Thanks very much - S&O

Neil Pickup · 21-01-2005, 07:27 AM

Basically, my code regarding the career history bits and bobs is flawed.

It seems that some parts are right, but others aren't. Seeing as the "reset" button uses all parts of the code, it uses both the right and wrong bits, with resulting corruption. I have a week off lectures now so I *might* get round to trying to analyse and fix it.

You can restore the original databases and you'll be fine (in theory), but I really would recommend backing up your DBs every time that you successfully edit something (you may even be able to find the specific section(s) where the code error(s) occurs to cause the corruption if you do it a bit at a time).

When you then press save, because of the bad code, it doesn't save the database correctly, and then it can't open it afterwards. As magpie and ICC use the exact same file format, this means neither can access it.

Does that follow/make sense?

Hoggy31 · 21-01-2005, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil Pickup

That would be it, then!

Mr Hoggy has it correct on stock/strike - average won't be changed significantly wherever you lie on the stock/strike spectrum, it's a tradeoff between Strike Rate and Economy Rate (stock).

Yay, i always knew i was smart.

burkey · 27-01-2005, 06:22 AM

Ok, this may be a stupid question, and it may be already covered (12 pages is a few too many to read) but, can you create players somehow, or just edit, because if you can, I cant seem to find how to do so.
Also, if you remove a player from their team, i.e Michael Clarke from NSW, will they appear on international players lists?

Hoggy31 · 27-01-2005, 06:37 AM

Although u cannot create players, you can get the players from like Minor Counties etc. the ones with only one letter for their first name and edit them, then put them into any team you want.

squiz · 29-01-2005, 06:15 AM

When editing players and getting that error is it just random when/where it happens? or does it happen in a specific place?

Neil Pickup · 29-01-2005, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squiz

When editing players and getting that error is it just random when/where it happens? or does it happen in a specific place?

The error occurs somewhere within the statistics/history section, as far as I know.

squiz · 29-01-2005, 09:48 PM

Here's an error which comes up when i play ICC 2002 after I've edited the databases:

Also are these for ICC 2002?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil Pickup

Right, simple solution. No reinstalls necessary.

Download these two files:
http://gosh.ex.ac.uk/~nsp201/dataT.db
http://gosh.ex.ac.uk/~nsp201/dataP.db

Then proceed from the decryption stage onwards.

SIX AND OUT · 29-01-2005, 10:50 PM

that error has occured to most of us I would think, I dont know what causes it, I got very fustrated with it before, coz I had updated the whole Australian team with there statistics!!!, and it saved perfectly, and then that error happened, so even though I was able to save after editing stats, that might happen.

Some people say it could be a typo in the dos, but I dont know.

Those files (quoted by Neil) are to be downloaded as the original database for ICC 02, which means no re-installion is required, but the edited/updated database (datap/datat) that you have are now officially 'screwed' so you need to download those files and everything is okay.

squiz · 29-01-2005, 11:45 PM

Oh ok

I made those bat files that someone was talking about earlier in this thread if anyone wants them (If they haven't been made before)

Just extract them to your International Cricket Captain 2002 folder, and I think Magpie does the rest (Encrypts and Decrypts)?

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21-01-2005, 06:46 AM	#170 (permalink)
Neil Pickup Cricket Web Staff Member / Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 26,361	That would be it, then! Mr Hoggy has it correct on stock/strike - average won't be changed significantly wherever you lie on the stock/strike spectrum, it's a tradeoff between Strike Rate and Economy Rate (stock).

21-01-2005, 07:15 AM	#171 (permalink)
SIX AND OUT U19 12th Man Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Big Cricket Posts: 223	Hey guys - I have been using the editor alot over the last few days/nights (i am writing this at 1:08 AEST) so I am very obsessed in using the editor. I know that the "career history" is the source for saving errors, but I was just wondering, after 3 hours getting the Aus and Vic squad up and running, i decided that I will try to do the stats. Now I did One player (Cameron White) and saved straight after, to see if the error came up, no, so I editored the whole victorian squad, and when I went to save it had the error. I know it is unreliable and it is my fault for ruining the files, now from my own experience, when this happens, i cant run on "Single Career" in ICC and I can't ever edit again. Now is that statement correct, or can you stop these errors without deleting files, and re installing ICC2002? Another one of my main questions is - If i can edit some successfully, what is the reason behind me getting the error on others. Is it a limited thing, or is it a certain detail row that I cant press, eg. Debut, and I have not gone anywhere near reset buttons at all. I would appreciate if i could get answers to these questions. Thanks very much - S&O

21-01-2005, 07:27 AM	#172 (permalink)
Neil Pickup Cricket Web Staff Member / Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 26,361	Basically, my code regarding the career history bits and bobs is flawed. It seems that some parts are right, but others aren't. Seeing as the "reset" button uses all parts of the code, it uses both the right and wrong bits, with resulting corruption. I have a week off lectures now so I might get round to trying to analyse and fix it. You can restore the original databases and you'll be fine (in theory), but I really would recommend backing up your DBs every time that you successfully edit something (you may even be able to find the specific section(s) where the code error(s) occurs to cause the corruption if you do it a bit at a time). When you then press save, because of the bad code, it doesn't save the database correctly, and then it can't open it afterwards. As magpie and ICC use the exact same file format, this means neither can access it. Does that follow/make sense?

27-01-2005, 06:22 AM	#174 (permalink)
burkey Cricket Spectator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 7	Ok, this may be a stupid question, and it may be already covered (12 pages is a few too many to read) but, can you create players somehow, or just edit, because if you can, I cant seem to find how to do so. Also, if you remove a player from their team, i.e Michael Clarke from NSW, will they appear on international players lists?

27-01-2005, 06:37 AM	#175 (permalink)
Hoggy31 International Captain Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: alanis morrissette Posts: 6,177	Although u cannot create players, you can get the players from like Minor Counties etc. the ones with only one letter for their first name and edit them, then put them into any team you want.

29-01-2005, 06:15 AM	#176 (permalink)
squiz U19 Debutant Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 366	When editing players and getting that error is it just random when/where it happens? or does it happen in a specific place?

29-01-2005, 10:50 PM	#179 (permalink)
SIX AND OUT U19 12th Man Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Big Cricket Posts: 223	that error has occured to most of us I would think, I dont know what causes it, I got very fustrated with it before, coz I had updated the whole Australian team with there statistics!!!, and it saved perfectly, and then that error happened, so even though I was able to save after editing stats, that might happen. Some people say it could be a typo in the dos, but I dont know. Those files (quoted by Neil) are to be downloaded as the original database for ICC 02, which means no re-installion is required, but the edited/updated database (datap/datat) that you have are now officially 'screwed' so you need to download those files and everything is okay.

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