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Most inconsistent player
- Thread starter Craig
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That may be right; since the beginning of his career Vaughans series averages have read either 50+ or less then 30. He has achieved 30-37 averages though on only 3 occasions, which isn't really that great anyway.
Compare this to Ponting, who in 28 series has been 30+ 23 times, and this of course includes his infamous India 2000/01 average of 3.40
Compare this to Ponting, who in 28 series has been 30+ 23 times, and this of course includes his infamous India 2000/01 average of 3.40
What on earth kind of comment is that? Come on marc, back yourself up, say something to prove your point.
You would have to concede that...
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
No, and he didn't bowl terribly in West Indies in 2003 (4 for 203), nor in South Africa in 2000\01 (1 for 218), nor in the 1998\99 ATC (1 for 267), nor in India in 1997\98 (4 for 292, average 73), nor at home to India previously (4 for 191, average 47.74), nor in Australia in 1995\96 (9 for 371, average 41.22), nor in Pakistan in 1994 (0 for 80).
In 33 Test-series, he's averaged under 27 11 times; between 27 and 30 5 times (the mark of a "consistent" bowler is averaging here lots); between 30 and 40 8 times (the best bowling-averages invariably result from managing to average here in your less good times); and over 40 a massively disappointing 8 times. In 3 series he's averaged over 100.
There are also game-by-game variations in these series, of course.
The one thing that perhaps gives him the impression of consistency is that he doesn't all that often go for very many (in just 2 of those 33 series has he gone for more than 3.25-an-over).
In 33 Test-series, he's averaged under 27 11 times; between 27 and 30 5 times (the mark of a "consistent" bowler is averaging here lots); between 30 and 40 8 times (the best bowling-averages invariably result from managing to average here in your less good times); and over 40 a massively disappointing 8 times. In 3 series he's averaged over 100.
There are also game-by-game variations in these series, of course.
The one thing that perhaps gives him the impression of consistency is that he doesn't all that often go for very many (in just 2 of those 33 series has he gone for more than 3.25-an-over).
Andre
International Regular
Indeed, what are you thinking? It's very well known that Vaas is one of the most inconsistent bowlers in world cricket. Not so much in ODIs, but certainly in Tests.nookie_lk said:ofcourse another anti sri lankan comment by Marchow lame
i'm sure there are worse players than Vass in world cricket..oh i'm sorry he's Sri Lankan..what am i thinking.
Neil Pickup
Cricket Web Moderator
Some distributions:
Average 0-15: Vaas 3 - Pollock 5 - McGrath 3 - Gough 0
Average 15-20: Vaas 3 - Pollock 5 - McGrath 10 - Gough 4
Average 20-25: Vaas 4 - Pollock 11 - McGrath 8 - Gough 1
Average 25-30: Vaas 6 - Pollock 6 - McGrath 2 - Gough 2
Average 30-35: Vaas 7 - Pollock 1 - McGrath 3 - Gough 2
Average 35-50: Vaas 3 - Pollock 1 - McGrath 5 - Gough 4
Average 50-100: Vaas 2 - Pollock 0 - McGrath 2 - Gough 1
Average 100+: Vaas 4 - Pollock 0 - McGrath 0 - Gough 2
Note the consistency in Pollock and McGrath compared to Vaas (and to a lesser extent Gough).
Average 0-15: Vaas 3 - Pollock 5 - McGrath 3 - Gough 0
Average 15-20: Vaas 3 - Pollock 5 - McGrath 10 - Gough 4
Average 20-25: Vaas 4 - Pollock 11 - McGrath 8 - Gough 1
Average 25-30: Vaas 6 - Pollock 6 - McGrath 2 - Gough 2
Average 30-35: Vaas 7 - Pollock 1 - McGrath 3 - Gough 2
Average 35-50: Vaas 3 - Pollock 1 - McGrath 5 - Gough 4
Average 50-100: Vaas 2 - Pollock 0 - McGrath 2 - Gough 1
Average 100+: Vaas 4 - Pollock 0 - McGrath 0 - Gough 2
Note the consistency in Pollock and McGrath compared to Vaas (and to a lesser extent Gough).
Neil Pickup
Cricket Web Moderator
Also exemplified by the standard deviations of the series averages.
Pollock 6.42
McGrath 12.26
Gough 46.67
Vaas 54.43
Pollock 6.42
McGrath 12.26
Gough 46.67
Vaas 54.43
Neil Pickup
Cricket Web Moderator
Harmo, incidentally, has a distribution of 2/1/2/1/0/1/1/0 and an SD of 14.83.
Standard deviation, incidentally, is a measure of the spread of values. In theory, 68.2% of values are within 1 SD each side of the data's mean, 95.4% within 2 and 99.7% within 3.
Standard deviation, incidentally, is a measure of the spread of values. In theory, 68.2% of values are within 1 SD each side of the data's mean, 95.4% within 2 and 99.7% within 3.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Oh, without doubt there are many, many, many worse players than Chaminda in World cricket - but not many more inconsistent.nookie_lk said:ofcourse another anti sri lankan comment by Marc
i'm sure there are worse players than Vass in world cricket..oh i'm sorry he's Sri Lankan..what am i thinking.
The Baconator
International Vice-Captain
how about any current west indian bowler?
Neil Pickup
Cricket Web Moderator
If his 1-215 in the SA Series of 2003 is omitted, it drops to 21.71.Richard said:
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
nookie_lk said:ofcourse another anti sri lankan comment by Marc
Erm no, just pointing out an acknowledged fact (Neil and I agree, and for once so does Richard - there can be no more surefire proof that that)
If you're so insecure that you interpret anyone who disagrees about the ability of Sri Lanka as a form of racism, then that is your problem and nobody elses.
Neil Pickup
Cricket Web Moderator
Seeing as I haven't got anything else better to do with the time:
Sanford 10.92
Dillion 17.42 (was 8.81 before the 90 in SA that got him dropped)
Lawson 20.03
Drakes 33.44
Collymore 35.23
Edwards 35.97
Banks 38.73
Best 41.31
Collins 72.67 (he has a 102, 142 and 264 to go with a 15, 17 and 21)
Left-arm seamers, honestly. And because I can read minds:
Nehra 28.95
Zaheer 19.45
Pathan 26.87
Mullally 10.28
Wasim 12.66
O'Connor 24.90
Bear in mind that SDs become more reliable over time (and two series is highly inaccurate).
Sanford 10.92
Dillion 17.42 (was 8.81 before the 90 in SA that got him dropped)
Lawson 20.03
Drakes 33.44
Collymore 35.23
Edwards 35.97
Banks 38.73
Best 41.31
Collins 72.67 (he has a 102, 142 and 264 to go with a 15, 17 and 21)
Left-arm seamers, honestly. And because I can read minds:
Nehra 28.95
Zaheer 19.45
Pathan 26.87
Mullally 10.28
Wasim 12.66
O'Connor 24.90
Bear in mind that SDs become more reliable over time (and two series is highly inaccurate).