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India needs improvement in the following areas to challenge Australia in ODIs.

Swervy

International Captain
alexkumar said:
There is no one can deny Gangulys fighting spirit.

Ponting / waugh was equipped with world class bowlers with great batting line up next only to indians.

It makes cpataincy job easier.

With worst indian bowling , you can't even compare ganguly with ponting.

Ganguly is a cunning dude. He takes risk. He brought everyone on line with his methods.

Only one he could n't control is tendulkar bitch.

Tendulkar should bat at middle order , but he sucks there.

All tendulkar needs is score more runs as opening batsman and make India lose.

Dravid sacrificing everything for INDIA by doing wicket keeping.

Tendulkar can't even adjust his position in order to make Indian batting Fail proof.

Tendulkar is a selfish biatch.

later

mmmm.....well you might not agree with me on Ganguly, thats your opinion...but what you are saying about Tendulkar is utter crud
 

delkap

State Vice-Captain
Hell Yeah,
How dare he claim 50 Man of the Match awards without winning a game for India !!! What a Choker :lol:
And why do opposition bowlers target him, he will get himself out as he has done every game...
Sachin is definitely the worst thing to happen to Indian Cricket...

PS: Alex in case your general knowledge is same as your cricket knowledge.. above was sarcasm :D
 

alexkumar

Banned
HAHAHA! :D :lol:

You people are giving tendulkar too much credit. No one is disputing his talent and batting skills and his numerous records prove that.

He is just not a match winning talent. he is a choker. Every team aim for his wicket and get it every time.

Sachin is a choker when pressure is applied. :pokey:

He has proven that time and time again. :nopity:

Until Sachin wins world cup , he is just a choker with great batting skill.

Ganguly is best captain , india ever produced. Smart and cunning. All he needs is a good bowling help.

later
 

Jnr.

First Class Debutant
He is just not a match winning talent. he is a choker. Every team aim for his wicket and get it every time.
That is because his wicket is HUGE and if he is at the wicket, he can do anything.
Ganguly is a cunning dude.
Ummm...no comment. He is a good leader though, I can't deny him that.
He is just not a match winning talent.
Sachin has won many matches for India!
Until Sachin wins world cup , he is just a choker with great batting skill.
Talk about high expectations....
 

Mr. P

International Vice-Captain
alexkumar said:
2. India needs an All rounder who can bowl fast. India lacks options in bowling department.
Erm...maybe this is a little too obvious but AA!!!

Is he not a fast bowling allrounder! :wacko: :dry:
 

Nate

You'll Never Walk Alone
Mr. Ponting said:
Erm...maybe this is a little too obvious but AA!!!

Is he not a fast bowling allrounder! :wacko: :dry:

i dont think his batting quite qualifies him for ar status.


To win it on his own requires cloning.
your point?? get alexs cloning machine out and...
 

delkap

State Vice-Captain
alexkumar said:
Until Sachin wins world cup , he is just a choker with great batting skill
so Sachin joins a list of chokers which goes like: All Englishmen, All Indian players apart from 83 squad, All South African players, All Windies players apart from 75 and 79 winning team, All Pakistanis apart from 92 WC winners, All Sri-lankans apart from 96 WC squad, All New Zealanders, Quite a few Australians (despite 3 WC wins), All Zimbabweans, Bangladeshis

Man thats a lot of chokers who havent won a WC "on their own" for their country.

Mind you list includes: Lara, Haynes, Dravid, Ganguly, Gower, Gooch, Astle, Fleming, Anwar, Kirsten, Kallis, Gibbs, and so many more...
 

Sudeep

International Captain
alexkumar said:
There is no one can deny Gangulys fighting spirit.

Ponting / waugh was equipped with world class bowlers with great batting line up next only to indians.

It makes cpataincy job easier.

With worst indian bowling , you can't even compare ganguly with ponting.

Ganguly is a cunning dude. He takes risk. He brought everyone on line with his methods.

Only one he could n't control is tendulkar bitch.

Tendulkar should bat at middle order , but he sucks there.

All tendulkar needs is score more runs as opening batsman and make India lose.

Dravid sacrificing everything for INDIA by doing wicket keeping.

Tendulkar can't even adjust his position in order to make Indian batting Fail proof.

Tendulkar is a selfish biatch.

later
WORST.POST.EVER.
 

Sudeep

International Captain
Alex, you've a problem with both Tendulkar and Laxman.

Can you explain how without two of the top three batsmen we have, we're going to challenge Australia?
 

alexkumar

Banned
hi sudeep,

Tendulkar has n't proven anything in Big match occasions. So you all stop comparing INDIA to Australia.

Australian players know their roles very well. They play within their limitation.

Indian batsman boasts and chokes. It is always the case.

Tendulkar is fine as long he is just another member of the TEAM. Whole India is making him some kind of saviour. He has n't won anything yet.

The problem with Indian fans is they are blind.

Laxman should be dropped from INDIAN ODI XI though.

I do not like to have just slow scoring batsman in ODI. It reduces strength of the TEAM , if we want to compete with AUSTRALIA.

1. Sehwag --- Batsman/Bowler/Good Fielder.
2. Tendulkar --- Batsman/Bowler/Good OutFielder
3. Ganguly ---- Batsman/Bowler/Captain
4. Dravid ---- Batsman/Wicket Keeper.
5. Yuvaraj --- Batsman/Bowler/Great Fielder
6. Kaif --- Batsman/Best Indian Fielder
7. Pathan --- Bowler/good low order Batsman
8. Balaji --- Bowler/good low order Batsman
9. Kumble --- Bowler.
10.Dinesh Karthik --- Good wicket Keeper/Good batsman/young
11.Zaheer Khan / Nehra -- Bowler.

As you see almost every batman has dual skills except LAXMAN.

Laxman is unfit for Indian TEAM unless he opens INDIAN Batting.

If not , see ya.

You can dispute now.

later
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
I find it strange that you won't allow people who are average fielders to stay in the team, yet you pick some batsmen who's bowling is less than average and use that partially as a reason.
 

delkap

State Vice-Captain
alexkumar said:
hi sudeep,

Tendulkar has n't proven anything in Big match occasions. So you all stop comparing INDIA to Australia.

Australian players know their roles very well. They play within their limitation.

Indian batsman boasts and chokes. It is always the case.

Tendulkar is fine as long he is just another member of the TEAM. Whole India is making him some kind of saviour. He has n't won anything yet.

The problem with Indian fans is they are blind.

Laxman should be dropped from INDIAN ODI XI though.

I do not like to have just slow scoring batsman in ODI. It reduces strength of the TEAM , if we want to compete with AUSTRALIA.

1. Sehwag --- Batsman/Bowler/Good Fielder.
2. Tendulkar --- Batsman/Bowler/Good OutFielder
3. Ganguly ---- Batsman/Bowler/Captain
4. Dravid ---- Batsman/Wicket Keeper.
5. Yuvaraj --- Batsman/Bowler/Great Fielder
6. Kaif --- Batsman/Best Indian Fielder
7. Pathan --- Bowler/good low order Batsman
8. Balaji --- Bowler/good low order Batsman
9. Kumble --- Bowler.
10.Dinesh Karthik --- Good wicket Keeper/Good batsman/young
11.Zaheer Khan / Nehra -- Bowler.

As you see almost every batman has dual skills except LAXMAN.

Laxman is unfit for Indian TEAM unless he opens INDIAN Batting.

If not , see ya.

You can dispute now.

later
Laxman isn't that bad a slip fielder (though he has dropped a few I admit)...
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
*wonders why india are still refusing to play those two all-rounders (one a big shot-maker whose od average is nearest 80, the other an accurate 160km swing bowler) who do exist, but are still waiting to be found...*
Who, and I repeat, who, are those players?

Given the problems with Indian fast bowling and all-rounders (a problem made by the selectors), that was not funny at all!

Swervy said:
and that is where captaincy come into play. Australia have always had that fighting spirit...even in the mid 80's...the problem was that there was no talent available to convert it into results.

Border changed his style of captaincy and with an injection of talent, the team steadily improved...this all culminated with Steve waughs captaincy..a man who led by example (who can forget his hundred vs England in 2001 when he could hardly walk).

Ganguly for mine is lacking big time in this department. he lets things slip away to much,and the last few times I have seen him play, if things arent going to well, he goes into his shell and looks a nervous wreck. India need a captain who can get stuck in there,and lead by example, especially in the field.

We all know India have great batting talent, but this is no good without consistant bowling and high class fielding...India have the batting to not need a great allrounder, so I dont think that is really a problem
Very valid points.

His captaincy may have 'moulded talented individuals into a team', but it requires really great players in that team to be effective for a long time. The Indians lack great players and that shows up against the Australians, but Ganguly can do absolutely nothing. Fleming uses a lot of intelligence as a captain and looks for alternatives in case plan A fails. However, Ganguly relies far too much on Plan A, even when it fails. Besides, he wastes far too much time, energy and patience building an image in press conferences, but the truth is there to see on the field, which is very much the opposite of what we see on TV and in the papers. Never has he translated his big talk into team victories. Like Nasser Hussain, he too is rather self-destructive in case of danger and ends up a cold turkey in a crucial match.

This is where the Indians need a Steve Waugh, Adam Gilchrist or Ricky Ponting or even a Fleming or Marvan or at least a Michael Vaughan- a captain who can use his imagination rather than pure instinct, and produce results on the field, rather than while facing mediamen. It makes me wonder, who's Ganguly's bigger rival? Media or opposition players? If one of these was captain of India, they'd be a far better side. An Indian team is best captained by imagination, not instinct.

The Indians definitely need a bowling all-rounder, since none of their bowlers can bat, except for Pathan and Balaji, who are still raw. There's Ramesh Powar, who may not be a very talented player (but far better than whatever Mr.XXXXXX said), but can balance his skills very well and is definitely ready for a big match- he has very good temperament. Yet he never finds a place in the team. A good selection committee would have picked him four years ago. They don't have a wicektkeeper batsman like gilchrist or Stewart, so they have to look for an all-rounder. Comments about absence of all-rounders are shockingly cynical, since a selector looking for all-rounders would have picked Ramesh Powar and Jai Prakash Yadav. Are the 'specialists' far better? I doubt it. In fact, Sanjay Bangar is a more useful bowler than Balaji these days! They also need a batsman bowling regularly, not in that odd match. This batsman will thus be used to bowlign and that will add more balance.
 

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