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What Qualifies as a Test Allrounder?

Redsok

Cricket Spectator
Revised...


Batsmen who could bowl

WG Grace
Stanley Jackson
Walter Hammond
Ted Dexter
Bob Simpson
Sanath Jayasuriya

Batting all-rounders

Gary Sobers
Jacques Kallis

Balanced all-rounders

GA Faulkner
Vinoo Mankad
Keith Miller
Imran Khan
Tony Greig
Ian Botham
Kapil Dev
Chris Cairns
Andrew Flintoff
Shakib al Hasan

Bowling all-rounders

Wilfred Rhodes
Monty Noble
Jack Gregory
S.Pollock
RJ Hadlee
Richie Benaud

Bowlers who could bat

Ray Lindwall
Wasim Akram



Flintoff was literally a BOWLING ALL ROUNDER. Just like Pollock, but Pollock was a much better bowler.. and was more consistent.

The Flintoff overhype is quite insane.. He literally had a great few years, including that 2005 Ashes
 

Redsok

Cricket Spectator
Imran and Pollock being that high doesn't sit right with me.


Just because you don't like something, doesn't make it any less true. Stop acting so ignorant boy


Imran was the most complete All Rounder, while also being the best bowler in the world at that time. Botham was out of this world for the first half of his career, before the injury. But Imran was on another level, and only got better with time

Imran's last half of his career, final 10+ years since he became the captain.. He averaged 50+ with the bat, and 20 with the ball. Captained Pakistan to the World Cup victory as well.

That man had it all.


And Pollock was EVERYTHING so many people think Flintoff was.. just because of that "ASHES".. Flintoff only had a great FEW years, and that's it. He was a bowling all rounder, but couldn't carry on. Very inconsistent

Pollock was a better bowler, and had a better career. More consistent, and lethal. A great lower order batsman as well, in both TESTS and ODI. Just like Flintoff, but again.. Pollock was more consistent, and a much larger career sample size.
 

Redsok

Cricket Spectator
ok. cool. I think its right, though


Just because you think it's "right", doesn't make it right.


Career length means nothing. Kallis was never a great bowler, compared to the likes of Imran, Botham, Keith Miller, and even Sobers

Kallis was a great batsman, who could bowl. Especially later in his career, he was not even bowling as much. Fools who actually never watched him play, and only looks at his NUMBERS.. they are the ones that act so delusional.



Kallis just has the best CAREER STATS, because of his crazy longevity. He will always be the 2nd best Batting All Rounder, after Sobers. Sobers was more complete though, and a better wicket taker.


But a game changing COMPLETE all rounder, that was Peak Botham, Imran, Miller, and Sobers. Kapil Dev is also somewhere in that list.


"wickets per match" means much more, than total wickets career stats.
 

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