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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey View Post
    It doesn't really happen anywhere.
    I like to labour under the impression that other countries pitches wear better for some reason, even if it isn't true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OverratedSanity View Post
    I just don't get the point. How is 4 day test cricket going to produce any 'renewed interest' in the test format? That's what their aim is but if anyone isn't interested in sitting down and watching 5 days of cricket, then they won't be interested in a 4 day game either.



    It's a graph which intentionally cuts off more than half the Y-axis to present a misleading image.
    Yeah, I wasn't too irked about the y-axis thing tbh because that's pretty standard practice when you're trying to make a point (especially one that's isn't quite all there)

    Although, I wonder how different the graph looks if you took out tests involving Zimbabwe and Bangladesh? I'm guessing the drop would be less pronounced
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    They hate the first-class game, the ECB. They hate it because it does not make as much money these days in comparison to the twenty20 stuff and money is all they care about. They hate it because traditionalists/purists love it who do not bring in as much money as families and lads-on-the-piss. They hate it because it does not have people in hot tubs, fireworks, trampolines and guys on motorbikes, that is that it is not a shiny new thing to flog to broadcasters (i.e. sky). It might interest you that the ECB are also buggering up the county championship, reducing it by two games per team and putting all of the twenty20 on in the high summer, as well as stopping internationals such as Broad and Root from playing for their counties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani View Post
    The main reason given is that they can schedule more matches. So in another 25 years time, another genius , likely from the ECB, will come up with the masterstroke that is 3 day tests. T20 taking up more time out of the international calendar is a problem and all it does, even if the reason they mentioned were true (and it is not), they are simply fixing a symptom.
    Yes, I can see that happening. Although, by then, T20 would be struggling to maintain relevance to the new & exciting T10, featuring Android bowling machines.
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    ...on artificial pitches (which is another hair brained ECB scheme).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bijed View Post
    Yeah, I wasn't too irked about the y-axis thing tbh because that's pretty standard practice when you're trying to make a point (especially one that's isn't quite all there)

    Although, I wonder how different the graph looks if you took out tests involving Zimbabwe and Bangladesh? I'm guessing the drop would be less pronounced
    Not that different imo. The main reason is because of teams being piss poor away from home.

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    Complete nonsense of an idea. Fully expect the next brain child to be to limit the first innings to 100 overs.

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    If it's just to please the bean counters they could always write it in to the playing conditions that if the game finishes in four days they have a T20 international on the scheduled fifth day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillian Thomson View Post
    Complete nonsense of an idea. Fully expect the next brain child to be to limit the first innings to 100 overs.
    I've seen this idea suggested many places and it never gets less stupid. It would encourage negative tactics from the bowling side and be absolutely farcical.

    Quote Originally Posted by fredfertang View Post
    If it's just to please the bean counters they could always write it in to the playing conditions that if the game finishes in four days they have a T20 international on the scheduled fifth day
    Make that a red-ball T20. I'd wouldn't mind seeing that, although I'm sure the novelty would soon wear off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillian Thomson View Post
    Complete nonsense of an idea. Fully expect the next brain child to be to limit the first innings to 100 overs.
    They had that rule in county cricket in the late 70s (though I think the side batting second got the "extra" overs if they bowled out the side batting first in under 100 overs) - can anyone remember if this had farcical results?

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    Having had some first-hand experience working with Cricket administration, albeit just at associate level, it absolutely boggles me how those in charge of leading the game in major nations seem to dislike the game so much.

    Why are they working in it and who has signed off on them getting these roles? It's really just shocking that anyone from the ECB would even suggest this, let alone try and make this a thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewB View Post
    They had that rule in county cricket in the late 70s (though I think the side batting second got the "extra" overs if they bowled out the side batting first in under 100 overs) - can anyone remember if this had farcical results?
    Three day County Cricket was a complete farce in those days. You would get two days of good competitive cricket, but if the match was going nowhere the captains would get together on the final morning and agree a target with forfeiting of innings and bowling full tosses and crap to produce runs to attain the target they'd agreed to set.

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    Bounce-backability also seems to have been lost to the game. SA probably shown the best of it in recent times but being able to fight for the win and draw is all part of the drama 5 days brings.

    Something I noticed in the recent Eng vs Saf series was all tests were won by the team winning the toss and batting and getting in front. In a way the game of test cricket is being effected but I hope no more stupid ideas like this are brought in to effect the nuances of test cricket.

    In all domestic 4-day series teams do well to get 96-overs in if they do and now they expect 105 with DRS ? Ludicrous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillian Thomson View Post
    Three day County Cricket was a complete farce in those days. You would get two days of good competitive cricket, but if the match was going nowhere the captains would get together on the final morning and agree a target with forfeiting of innings and bowling full tosses and crap to produce runs to attain the target they'd agreed to set.
    Going on a bit of a tangent here, but I don't think "declaration bowling" - as opposed to early declarations (that you probably wouldn't see in a Test) to keep the match alive - was as common as people remember it as being... skimming through the 1988 Wisden*, most of the results involved a side taking 20 wickets, and most of the rest involved normal bowling plus declarations/forfeitures.

    *it's the only one I have with all 3-day county matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewB View Post
    They had that rule in county cricket in the late 70s (though I think the side batting second got the "extra" overs if they bowled out the side batting first in under 100 overs) - can anyone remember if this had farcical results?
    In 1966 some County Championship matches had the first innings limited to 65 overs - Wisden seems to conclude it did give the openers the hurry up, but clearly didn't accomplish much as it wasn't persisted with

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