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    Chokers in the game today!

    Which players do you think are the notorious chokers in the game today?

    Players that are otherwise good and perform well, but in tight situation fails to live upto their reputation coz of pressure.

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    mr sachin tendulkar and most of the SA team
    Tendulkar = the most overated player EVER!!
    Beckham = the most overated footballer EVER!!
    Vassell = the biggest disgrace since rikki clarke!!

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    No one has to be called a choker. One team played better than the other....
    I think, therefore I am.

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    Originally posted by Tony Blade
    No one has to be called a choker. One team played better than the other....
    yes but when one player play well in the preliminary games against a particular team and then fails in the finals against the same team ...what else could u call him?


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    Umm. Well, in some cases a player may just get a really really good delivery.

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    Andrew Symonds and of lately Michael Bevan cant play test at all and no form in odis means no career just like what happened to slater but reverse he could'nt play 1 dayers too good bad luck bevo

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    mr sachin tendulkar
    and his 141 in the second odi....was a fluke right.
    Umm. Well, in some cases a player may just get a really really good delivery.
    lets just forget this fact for a while so people can come up with some pedestrian theories. :rolleyes:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raj123
    and his 141 in the second odi....was a fluke right.

    lets just forget this fact for a while so people can come up with some pedestrian theories. :rolleyes:
    Yes but I think tooextracool is right. You Indians build him up into a superstar (I admit he is one of the best batsman in teh history of cricket) yet he often chokes in crucuial situations. I don't think you can really have it both ways. For someone that good they shouldn't choke, dare I say it, AS much as Tendulkar in cruycial situations. Sure he deos save the team on a fair few ocasions, but more often than not he chokes.

    As for that Bevan and Symonds comment. I don't think that's exactly what the thread is getting at. I think he means that it's players who choke in pressure situations, not players who aren't good at one form or the like. So Bevan would definitely have to be one of the msot reliable players in ODI's, definitely not a choker for all intensive purposes of this thread!
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    His test figures in each country are as follows.

    Australia........646@46.14 with 3 hundreds
    Bangladesh......18@18.00
    England.........673@74.77 with 3 hundreds
    India............3327@61.61 with 12 hundreds
    New Zealand..398@49.75 with 1 hundred
    Pakistan........215@35.83
    South Africa...443@36.91 with 2 hundreds
    Sri Lanka........670@111.66 with 4 hundreds
    West Indies....289@57.80
    Zimbabwe.......240@40.00

    16 of his 25 hundreds have been scored in Asia.

    Tendulkar has scored in
    Winning series....... 2621@70.83 with 10 hundreds
    Lost series.............2768@49.42 with 10 hundreds
    Drawn series..........1530@54.64 with 5 hundreds.

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    With a 'winning' average of over 70, who in the world says he doesn't 'win' games for India?
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    Sure he wins them, but he tends to choke when they are on the back foot. Put it this way, he most certainly isn't as good as when they are on top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Halsey
    Sure he wins them, but he tends to choke when they are on the back foot. Put it this way, he most certainly isn't as good as when they are on top.
    Which is not something you can accuse any other player in the world of?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Halsey
    Sure he wins them, but he tends to choke when they are on the back foot. Put it this way, he most certainly isn't as good as when they are on top.
    Oh yes because his average in a losing cause is a shocking one isn't it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sehwag309
    His test figures in each country are as follows.

    Australia........646@46.14 with 3 hundreds
    Bangladesh......18@18.00
    England.........673@74.77 with 3 hundreds
    India............3327@61.61 with 12 hundreds
    New Zealand..398@49.75 with 1 hundred
    Pakistan........215@35.83
    South Africa...443@36.91 with 2 hundreds
    Sri Lanka........670@111.66 with 4 hundreds
    West Indies....289@57.80
    Zimbabwe.......240@40.00
    amazing stats those....yet he has never won a game( let alone a series) outside the sub continent for india for the last 10 years. IMO tendulkar is a good player thats it....but for people in india to make him out to be like a cricketing god is just ridiculous. IMO he wouldnt even make the list of top 25 test batsman in the history of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    Oh yes because his average in a losing cause is a shocking one isn't it!
    No, but it is nowhere near his average when they win.

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