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    ICC sim league III (decade vs decade)

    Following on (pun intended) from the ODI sim cup, I am back now with this, the third edition of the ICC sim league, which will be once again using the PC game International Cricket Captain 2013 & an in-game player editor. This time around we will be pitting the best players from each decade against one another upon that hallowed simulated turf. This will be a 14 team tournament, those teams, and the players who will be managing them, are as follows:

    - 1800's - AndrewB
    - 1900's & 1910's - Howe_zat
    - 1920's & early 1930's - mr_mister
    - late 1930's & 1940's - morgieb
    - 1950's - ImpatientLime
    - 1960's - Grumpy
    - 1970's - The Battlers Prince
    - 1980's - kingkallis
    - 1990's - Shri
    - 2000's - Daemon
    - 2010's - Nate
    - Bang/Zim/Associates - zorax

    - Best of the rest (pre-1970) - harsh.ag
    - Best of the rest (post-1970) - honestbharani
    Before we kick the tournament off, we will seed the teams into two groups of seven. Once everyone has posted their 14 man squads, I will ask everyone to rank the teams in order of strongest to weakest. The results of this vote will decide which team is seeded into which group.


    Tournament format.

    14 teams, two groups of seven. The top four from each group will qualify for the super 8's stage. The top four from the super 8's will contest the semi-finals & final. This will be a Test match tournament.


    Points.

    Win – 6 pts
    Loss – 0 pts
    Loss, but won 1st innings – 2 pts
    Won 1st innings in drawn match – 2 pts
    Lost 1st innings in drawn match – 0 pts
    Won 1st innings in tied match – 4 pts
    Lost 1st innings in tied match – 3 pts
    Quotient – Runs per wicket for divided by runs per wicket against.

    Note: Points and quotient will be carried forward into the super 8's stage.

    Bonus points for each post liked by zorax.


    Injuries

    Any player that gets injured during a match will be available for selection the following match. There are no penalties for players getting injured this time around. This means you don't have to select a reserve wicketkeeper in your squad.


    Wicketkeepers

    I have recently discovered that ICC '13 does not penalise you when you sim a game without a keeper in your team. Therefore, for the purpose of realism, it will be mandatory for all players to select a genuine wicketkeeper or part-time keeper, marked with the (+) symbol in the below list, in their playing XI.


    Trade window

    No trade window this time around. Once everyone has selected their 14 man squads, all decisions are final.


    Trial matches


    By request only. Maximum of one trial match per team against FC opposition. For those of you who haven't participated in one of these sim tournaments before, the main purpose of these trial matches is to see what the AI will do with your bowlers. I assure you, the AI will do stupid things with bowlers all tournament.


    Please post your squads when ready (apart from harsh & HB).
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    Players by decade:

    1800s

    KS Ranjitsinhji, John Lyons, WG Grace, Stanley Jackson, Andrew Stoddart, George Giffen, Syd Gregory, Harry Trott, Billy Barnes, Charles Bannerman, Billy Bates, Hugh Trumble, Dick Barlow, Albert Trott, Bobby Peel, George Lohmann, Jack Blackham (+), Johnny Briggs, Charles Kortright, JJ Ferris, Charles Turner, Fred Spofforth, Tom Richardson, Joey Palmer, Thomas Wass, Arthur Shrewsbury, Tom Hayward, Bobby Abel, Billy Murdoch (+)

    1900s/1910s

    CB Fry, Victor Trumper, Reginald Foster, Clem Hill, Monty Noble, Johnny Tyldesley, Aubrey Faulkner, Archie MacLaren, George Hirst, Gilbert Jessop, Wilfred Rhodes, Warwick Armstrong, Len Braund, Frank Laver, Reggie Schwarz, Jimmy Sinclair, Frank Foster, Albert Hopkins, Dick Pilling (+), Bert Vogler, Albert Cotter, SF Barnes, Bill Whitty, Jack Saunders, Colin Blythe

    1920s/mid 1930s (No Bradman)

    Vijay Merchant, Bill Ponsford, Herbert Sutcliffe, Jack Hobbs, Herbie Taylor, Bill Woodfull, Warren Bardsley, Mushtaq Ali, Charlie Barnett, Bill Brown, Jack Fingleton, Clifford Roach, George Headley, Wally Hammond, Eddie Paynter, Maurice Leyland, Patsy Hendren, KS Duleepsinhji, Phil Mead, Douglas Jardine, Charles Macartney, Archie Jackson, Ernest Tyldesley, Bruce Mitchell, Andrew Sandham, Stan McCabe, Joe Hardstaff, Jack Ryder, Les Ames (+), Lala Amarnath, Jack Gregory, Frank Woolley, Freddie Brown, Maurice Tate, Learie Constantine, Bert Oldfield (+), Bert Strudwick (+), Harold Larwood, Bill Voce, Hedley Verity, Cyril Vincent, Clarrie Grimmett, Bill O'Reilly, Arthur Mailey, Tich Freeman, Bert Ironmonger, Alfred Hall, Bill Bowes, Manny Martindale, Ernie McCormick

    Late 1930s/1940s

    Stewie Dempster, Len Hutton, Arthur Morris, Sid Barnes, Eric Rowan, Dudley Nourse, Bill Edrich, Denis Compton, Vijay Hazare, Lindsay Hassett, Dudley Nourse, Jeffrey Stollmeyer, Keith Miller, Gerry Gomez, Godfrey Evans (+), Don Tallon (+), Ray Lindwall, Jack Iverson, Alec Bedser, Bill Johnston, Jack Cowie, Tufty Mann, Athol Rowan, Ernie Toshack

    1950s

    Hanif Mohammad, Bert Sutcliffe, Jackie McGlew, Vinoo Mankad, Imitaz Ahmed (+), Clyde Walcott (+), Everton Weekes, Frank Worrell, Polly Umrigar, Peter May, Neil Harvey, Vijay Manjrekar (+), John Reid, Collie Smith, Roy McLean, Richie Benaud, Trevor Bailey, Alan Davidson, Abdul Kardar, John Goddard, John Watkins, John Waite (+), Clive van Ryneveld, Fazal Mahmood, Hugh Tayfield, Frank Tyson, Jim Laker, Johnny Wardle, Fred Trueman, Peter Heine, Khan Mohammad, Brian Statham, Sonny Ramadhin, Subhash Gupte, Tony Lock, Neil Adcock, Alf Valentine, Ghulam Ahmed, Lindsay Kline, Jasu Patel, Don Shepherd

    1960s

    Bill Lawry, Bob Simpson, John Edrich, Conrad Hunte, Colin Cowdrey, Graham Dowling, Ian Redpath, Trevor Goddard, Eddie Barlow, Keith Stackpole, Farokh Engineer (+), Garfield Sobers, Graeme Pollock, Bob Cowper, Rohan Kanhai (+), Ken Barrington, Ted Dexter, MAK Pataudi, Seymour Nurse, Ken Mackay, Mushtaq Mohammad, Chandu Borde, Bapu Nadkarni, Basil d'Oliveira, Tom Graveney, Saeed Ahmed, Colin Bland, Dilip Sardesai, Intikhab Alam, ML Jaisimha, Bruce Taylor, Ray Illingworth, Rusi Surti, Peter Sainsbury, Peter Pollock, Dick Motz, Graham McKenzie, Wes Hall, Pervez Sajjad, Lance Gibbs, Roy Gilchrist, Charlie Griffith, Joe Partridge

    1970s

    Geoff Boycott, Barry Richards, Glenn Turner, Roy Fredericks, Majid Khan, Dennis Amiss, Greg Chappell, Zaheer Abbas, Clive Lloyd, Ian Chappell, David Hookes, Doug Walters, Alvin Kallicharran, Mohinder Amarnath, Charlie Davis, Gundappa Viswanath, Keith Fletcher, Lawrence Rowe, Asif Iqbal, Mike Procter, Bevan Congdon, Tony Greig, Lee Irvine (+), Rodney Marsh (+), Alan Knott (+), Deryck Murray (+), Wasim Bari (+), Bob Taylor (+), Chris Old, Lance Cairns, Safraz Nawaz, Vince van der Bijl, Andy Roberts, Max Walker, Bob Willis, John Snow, Dennis Lillee, Jeff Thomson, Bishan Bedi, Erapalli Prasanna, Derek Underwood, BS Chandrasekhar, Srinivas Venkataraghavan, Bob Massie

    1980s

    Sunil Gavaskar, Kepler Wessels, Jimmy Cook, Graham Gooch, Gordon Greenidge, Desmond Haynes, David Boon (+), Martin Crowe, Javed Miandad, Dilip Vengsarkar, Dean Jones, Sandeep Patil, Allan Border, Mike Gatting, Vivian Richards, Kim Hughes, Allan Lamb, Mudassar Nazar, Andrew Jones, Richie Richardson, Kim Hughes, Larry Gomes, Roy Dias, Graham Yallop, David Gower, JF Reid (+), Imran Khan, Ravi Shastri, Alan Kourie, Manoj Prabhakar, Clive Rice, Roger Harper, Franklyn Stephenson, Ian Botham, Kapil Dev, Richard Hadlee, Jeffrey Dujon (+), Ian Smith (+), Garth le Roux, Malcolm Marshall, Phillip DeFreitas, Abdul Qadir, Mervyn Hughes, Joel Garner, Craig McDermott, Michael Holding, Geoff Lawson, Sylvester Clarke, Iqbal Qasim, Colin Croft, Ewen Chatfield, Terry Alderman, Dilip Doshi, Patrick Patterson

    1990s

    Marvan Atapattu, Gary Kirsten, Saeed Anwar, NS Sidhu, Mark Taylor, Michael Atherton, Sanath Jayasuriya, Vinod Kambli, Sachin Tendulkar, Michael Bevan, Graeme Hick, Mark Waugh, Mohammad Azharuddin, Steve Waugh, Brian Lara, Inzamam-ul-haq, Hashan Tillakaratne, Aravinda de Silva, Carl Hooper, Salim Malik (+), Graham Thorpe, Daryll Cullinan, Arjuna Ranatunga, Stephen Fleming, Hansie Cronje, Nasser Hussain, Robin Smith, Nathan Astle, Jonty Rhodes, Alec Stewart (+), Jimmy Adams (+), Romesh Kaluwitharana (+), Ridley Jacobs (+), Chris Cairns, Moin Khan (+), Ian Healy (+), Rashid Latif (+), Lance Klusener, Brian McMillan, Chaminda Vaas, Wasim Akram, Anil Kumble, Shane Warne, Darren Gough, Fanie de Villiers, Saqlain Mushtaq, Ian Bishop, Mushtaq Ahmed, Damien Fleming, Javagal Srinath, Curtly Ambrose, Waqar Younis, Allan Donald, Courtney Walsh, Angus Fraser, Danny Morrison, Glenn McGrath

    2000s

    Simon Katich, Matthew Hayden, Justin Langer (+), Graeme Smith, Virender Sehwag, Chris Gayle, Andrew Strauss, Mark Richardson, Marcus Trescothick, Herschelle Gibbs, Michael Vaughan, Tillakaratne Dilshan, Darren Lehmann, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Rahul Dravid (+), Ricky Ponting, Jacques Kallis, Thilan Samaraweera, Michael Hussey, VVS Laxman, Mahela Jayawardene, Misbah-ul-haq, Kevin Pietersen, Damien Martyn, Michael Clarke, Mohammad Yousuf, Yuvraj Singh, Younis Khan, Sourav Ganguly, Ramnaresh Sarwan, Kumar Sangakkara (+), Adam Gilchrist (+), MS Dhoni (+), Brendon McCullum (+), Mark Boucher (+), Shane Watson, Andrew Symonds, Shoaib Malik, Paul Collingwood, Andrew Flintoff, Shaun Pollock, Shahid Afridi, Daniel Vettori, Graeme Swann, Jason Gillespie, Harbhajan Singh, Brett Lee, Shane Bond, Shoaib Akhtar, Lasith Malinga, Stuart MacGill, Mohammad Asif, Chris Martin, Simon Jones, Stephen Harmison, Zaheer Khan, Muttiah Muralitharan

    2010s (Min 5 Tests played in ICC '13)

    Hashim Amla, Gautam Gambhir, Murali Vijay, Alistair Cook, David Warner, Mohammad Hafeez, Usman Khawaja, Martin Guptill, Cheteshwar Pujara, Dinesh Chandimal (+), JP Duminy, Virat Kohli, AB de Villiers (+), Umar Akmal (+), Jonathan Trott, Ian Bell, Dean Elgar, Ashwell Prince, Jonny Bairstow (+), Steven Smith, Ross Taylor, Faf du Plessis, Azhar Ali, Darren Bravo, Eoin Morgan, Asad Shafiq, Angelo Mathews, Matthew Prior (+), Brad Haddin (+), Ravi Ashwin, Ravi Jadeja, Marlon Samuels, Stuart Broad, Irfan Pathan, Vernon Philander, Mitchell Starc, Mitchell Johnson, Tim Southee, Ryan Harris, James Pattinson, Chris Tremlett, Peter Siddle, Wahab Riaz, Rangana Herath, Morne Morkel, Mohammad Aamer, Trent Boult, Ben Hilfenhaus, Nathan Lyon, James Anderson, Dale Steyn, Monty Panesar, Doug Bollinger, Saeed Ajmal, Steven Finn, Ishant Sharma
    zorax can choose anyone from Bangladesh, Zim or the associates.

    Once everyone has posted their squads, harsh & HB will pick their squads.
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    Churchdolflin XI

    Bruce Mitchell
    Len Hutton
    Denis Compton
    Dudley Nourse
    Vijay Hazare
    Keith Miller
    Don Tallon
    Ray Lindwall
    Alec Bedser
    Bill Johnston
    Jack Iverson

    Arthur Morris
    Lindsay Hassett
    Jack Cowie

    BTW what determines eligibility? If it's debuts, then AFAIC I should be entitled to Harvey and the 3 W's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by morgieb View Post
    Bruce Mitchell
    Len Hutton
    Denis Compton
    Dudley Nourse
    Vijay Hazare
    Keith Miller
    Don Tallon
    Ray Lindwall
    Alec Bedser
    Bill Johnston
    Jack Iverson

    Arthur Morris
    Godfrey Evans
    Jack Cowie
    Bruce Mitchell isn't eligible for your squad morgs. And you don't need to select a reserve keeper if you don't want.


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    How are the players added into ICC? Do you use their career averages? Or are they already in the database and you just make the teams? If I don't select a player who has played Tests, will their FC record be used? Is their in-game performance entirely tied into stats or is there some sort of 'skill' value?

    Sorry for all the questions but need to know this before I go about selecting my side
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy101 View Post
    Bruce Mitchell isn't eligible for your squad morgs. And you don't need to select a reserve keeper if you don't want.
    What is the main eligibility definer, FWIW? Because if it's Test debuts then my squad could be completely different.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorax View Post
    How are the players added into ICC? Do you use their career averages? Or are they already in the database and you just make the teams? If I don't select a player who has played Tests, will their FC record be used? Is their in-game performance entirely tied into stats or is there some sort of 'skill' value?

    Sorry for all the questions but need to know this before I go about selecting my side
    Around 95% of the players on the list are already in the game's database, I'll just be adding a few key players who were missing, & assigning them player ratings based on their FC stats & using player ratings of players with similar stats from the respective era in which they played in as reference points.

    To define a players rating the game seems to use an engine based on FC stats that becomes expanded over time. generally the best players from their era are among the best in the entire game. Whatever equation the developers of the game used seems to factor in rising FC batting/bowling averages over time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by morgieb View Post
    What is the main eligibility definer, FWIW? Because if it's Test debuts then my squad could be completely different.....
    There isn't one clear main eligibility definer, I based my decisions on a combination of debut year, retirement year, the decade in which they made their strongest impact on the game, captaincy tenure, years & matches played in a decade etc etc.

    Your squad is somewhat of an outlier morgs as I had to bend some of the rules to make it happen. Without it the 20's/30's & the 50's, especially, would be too strong, plus there were too few players who played exclusively in the 1940's to make a team such as that happen.

    Since MM didn't pick him, you can have Mitchell.

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    Generation Snapchat squad -

    Hashim Amla
    Alastair Cook
    David Warner
    Cheteshwar Pujara
    Virat Kohli
    AB de Villiers
    Steven Smith
    Ross Taylor
    Ravichandran Ashwin
    Ravindra Jadeja
    Vernon Philander
    Ryan Harris
    James Pattinson
    Dale Steyn

    Shakib Al Hasan has been replaced with Alastair Cook, as GS's manager immediately recants on his all-rounder strategy.
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    Oh, and a couple more things. This tournament will be staged entirely in England. Also, can everybody provide a name for their team, it'd be cool to not have to have scorecards that read "60's XI vs 00's XI" etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nate View Post
    Generation Snapchat squad -

    Hashim Amla
    David Warner
    Cheteshwar Pujara
    Virat Kohli
    AB de Villiers
    Steven Smith
    Ross Taylor
    Ravichandran Ashwin
    Shakib Al Hasan
    Ravindra Jadeja
    Vernon Philander
    Ryan Harris
    James Pattinson
    Dale Steyn
    Al Hasan is zorax's I'm afraid Nate
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    Disco Flares

    1. Barry Richards
    2. Geoff Boycott
    3. Glenn Turner
    4. Ian Chappell
    5. Greg Chappell
    6. Zaheer Abbas
    7. Clive Lloyd
    8. Doug Walters
    9. Mike Procter
    10. Allan Knott
    11. Vince Van Der Bijl
    12. Andy Roberts
    13. Dennis Lillee
    14. Derek Underwood
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Battlers Prince View Post
    Seventies

    1. Barry Richards
    2. Geoff Boycott
    3. Glenn Turner
    4. Ian Chappell
    5. Greg Chappell
    6. Zaheer Abbas
    7. Clive Lloyd
    8. Doug Walters
    9. Mike Procter
    10. Allan Knott
    11. Vince Van Der Bijl
    12. Andy Roberts
    13. Dennis Lillee
    14. Bishen Bedi
    15. Derek Underwood
    14 man squads Battlers. Need to drop a player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy101 View Post
    Al Hasan is zorax's I'm afraid Nate
    Shakibs.
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    Andy Flower and Shakib are literally the first names in my squad.

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