ICC sim league III (decade vs decade)

[jimmy101]

Following on (pun intended) from the ODI sim cup, I am back now with this, the third edition of the ICC sim league, which will be once again using the PC game International Cricket Captain 2013 & an in-game player editor. This time around we will be pitting the best players from each decade against one another upon that hallowed simulated turf. This will be a 14 team tournament, those teams, and the players who will be managing them, are as follows:

- 1800's - AndrewB
- 1900's & 1910's - Howe_zat
- 1920's & early 1930's - mr_mister
- late 1930's & 1940's - morgieb
- 1950's - ImpatientLime
- 1960's - Grumpy
- 1970's - The Battlers Prince
- 1980's - kingkallis
- 1990's - Shri
- 2000's - Daemon
- 2010's - Nate
- Bang/Zim/Associates - *****

- Best of the rest (pre-1970) - harsh.ag
- Best of the rest (post-1970) - honestbharani

Before we kick the tournament off, we will seed the teams into two groups of seven. Once everyone has posted their 14 man squads, I will ask everyone to rank the teams in order of strongest to weakest. The results of this vote will decide which team is seeded into which group.


Tournament format.

14 teams, two groups of seven. The top four from each group will qualify for the super 8's stage. The top four from the super 8's will contest the semi-finals & final. This will be a Test match tournament.


Points.

Win – 6 pts
Loss – 0 pts
Loss, but won 1st innings – 2 pts
Won 1st innings in drawn match – 2 pts
Lost 1st innings in drawn match – 0 pts
Won 1st innings in tied match – 4 pts
Lost 1st innings in tied match – 3 pts
Quotient – Runs per wicket for divided by runs per wicket against.

Note: Points and quotient will be carried forward into the super 8's stage.

Bonus points for each post liked by *****.


Injuries

Any player that gets injured during a match will be available for selection the following match. There are no penalties for players getting injured this time around. This means you don't have to select a reserve wicketkeeper in your squad.


Wicketkeepers

I have recently discovered that ICC '13 does not penalise you when you sim a game without a keeper in your team. Therefore, for the purpose of realism, it will be mandatory for all players to select a genuine wicketkeeper or part-time keeper, marked with the (+) symbol in the below list, in their playing XI.


Trade window

No trade window this time around. Once everyone has selected their 14 man squads, all decisions are final.


Trial matches

By request only. Maximum of one trial match per team against FC opposition. For those of you who haven't participated in one of these sim tournaments before, the main purpose of these trial matches is to see what the AI will do with your bowlers. I assure you, the AI will do stupid things with bowlers all tournament.


Please post your squads when ready (apart from harsh & HB).

 

[jimmy101]

Players by decade:

1800s

KS Ranjitsinhji, John Lyons, WG Grace, Stanley Jackson, Andrew Stoddart, George Giffen, Syd Gregory, Harry Trott, Billy Barnes, Charles Bannerman, Billy Bates, Hugh Trumble, Dick Barlow, Albert Trott, Bobby Peel, George Lohmann, Jack Blackham (+), Johnny Briggs, Charles Kortright, JJ Ferris, Charles Turner, Fred Spofforth, Tom Richardson, Joey Palmer, Thomas Wass, Arthur Shrewsbury, Tom Hayward, Bobby Abel, Billy Murdoch (+)

1900s/1910s

CB Fry, Victor Trumper, Reginald Foster, Clem Hill, Monty Noble, Johnny Tyldesley, Aubrey Faulkner, Archie MacLaren, George Hirst, Gilbert Jessop, Wilfred Rhodes, Warwick Armstrong, Len Braund, Frank Laver, Reggie Schwarz, Jimmy Sinclair, Frank Foster, Albert Hopkins, Dick Pilling (+), Bert Vogler, Albert Cotter, SF Barnes, Bill Whitty, Jack Saunders, Colin Blythe

1920s/mid 1930s (No Bradman)

Vijay Merchant, Bill Ponsford, Herbert Sutcliffe, Jack Hobbs, Herbie Taylor, Bill Woodfull, Warren Bardsley, Mushtaq Ali, Charlie Barnett, Bill Brown, Jack Fingleton, Clifford Roach, George Headley, Wally Hammond, Eddie Paynter, Maurice Leyland, Patsy Hendren, KS Duleepsinhji, Phil Mead, Douglas Jardine, Charles Macartney, Archie Jackson, Ernest Tyldesley, Bruce Mitchell, Andrew Sandham, Stan McCabe, Joe Hardstaff, Jack Ryder, Les Ames (+), Lala Amarnath, Jack Gregory, Frank Woolley, Freddie Brown, Maurice Tate, Learie Constantine, Bert Oldfield (+), Bert Strudwick (+), Harold Larwood, Bill Voce, Hedley Verity, Cyril Vincent, Clarrie Grimmett, Bill O'Reilly, Arthur Mailey, Tich Freeman, Bert Ironmonger, Alfred Hall, Bill Bowes, Manny Martindale, Ernie McCormick

Late 1930s/1940s

Stewie Dempster, Len Hutton, Arthur Morris, Sid Barnes, Eric Rowan, Dudley Nourse, Bill Edrich, Denis Compton, Vijay Hazare, Lindsay Hassett, Dudley Nourse, Jeffrey Stollmeyer, Keith Miller, Gerry Gomez, Godfrey Evans (+), Don Tallon (+), Ray Lindwall, Jack Iverson, Alec Bedser, Bill Johnston, Jack Cowie, Tufty Mann, Athol Rowan, Ernie Toshack

1950s

Hanif Mohammad, Bert Sutcliffe, Jackie McGlew, Vinoo Mankad, Imitaz Ahmed (+), Clyde Walcott (+), Everton Weekes, Frank Worrell, Polly Umrigar, Peter May, Neil Harvey, Vijay Manjrekar (+), John Reid, Collie Smith, Roy McLean, Richie Benaud, Trevor Bailey, Alan Davidson, Abdul Kardar, John Goddard, John Watkins, John Waite (+), Clive van Ryneveld, Fazal Mahmood, Hugh Tayfield, Frank Tyson, Jim Laker, Johnny Wardle, Fred Trueman, Peter Heine, Khan Mohammad, Brian Statham, Sonny Ramadhin, Subhash Gupte, Tony Lock, Neil Adcock, Alf Valentine, Ghulam Ahmed, Lindsay Kline, Jasu Patel, Don Shepherd

1960s

Bill Lawry, Bob Simpson, John Edrich, Conrad Hunte, Colin Cowdrey, Graham Dowling, Ian Redpath, Trevor Goddard, Eddie Barlow, Keith Stackpole, Farokh Engineer (+), Garfield Sobers, Graeme Pollock, Bob Cowper, Rohan Kanhai (+), Ken Barrington, Ted Dexter, MAK Pataudi, Seymour Nurse, Ken Mackay, Mushtaq Mohammad, Chandu Borde, Bapu Nadkarni, Basil d'Oliveira, Tom Graveney, Saeed Ahmed, Colin Bland, Dilip Sardesai, Intikhab Alam, ML Jaisimha, Bruce Taylor, Ray Illingworth, Rusi Surti, Peter Sainsbury, Peter Pollock, Dick Motz, Graham McKenzie, Wes Hall, Pervez Sajjad, Lance Gibbs, Roy Gilchrist, Charlie Griffith, Joe Partridge

1970s

Geoff Boycott, Barry Richards, Glenn Turner, Roy Fredericks, Majid Khan, Dennis Amiss, Greg Chappell, Zaheer Abbas, Clive Lloyd, Ian Chappell, David Hookes, Doug Walters, Alvin Kallicharran, Mohinder Amarnath, Charlie Davis, Gundappa Viswanath, Keith Fletcher, Lawrence Rowe, Asif Iqbal, Mike Procter, Bevan Congdon, Tony Greig, Lee Irvine (+), Rodney Marsh (+), Alan Knott (+), Deryck Murray (+), Wasim Bari (+), Bob Taylor (+), Chris Old, Lance Cairns, Safraz Nawaz, Vince van der Bijl, Andy Roberts, Max Walker, Bob Willis, John Snow, Dennis Lillee, Jeff Thomson, Bishan Bedi, Erapalli Prasanna, Derek Underwood, BS Chandrasekhar, Srinivas Venkataraghavan, Bob Massie

1980s

Sunil Gavaskar, Kepler Wessels, Jimmy Cook, Graham Gooch, Gordon Greenidge, Desmond Haynes, David Boon (+), Martin Crowe, Javed Miandad, Dilip Vengsarkar, Dean Jones, Sandeep Patil, Allan Border, Mike Gatting, Vivian Richards, Kim Hughes, Allan Lamb, Mudassar Nazar, Andrew Jones, Richie Richardson, Kim Hughes, Larry Gomes, Roy Dias, Graham Yallop, David Gower, JF Reid (+), Imran Khan, Ravi Shastri, Alan Kourie, Manoj Prabhakar, Clive Rice, Roger Harper, Franklyn Stephenson, Ian Botham, Kapil Dev, Richard Hadlee, Jeffrey Dujon (+), Ian Smith (+), Garth le Roux, Malcolm Marshall, Phillip DeFreitas, Abdul Qadir, Mervyn Hughes, Joel Garner, Craig McDermott, Michael Holding, Geoff Lawson, Sylvester Clarke, Iqbal Qasim, Colin Croft, Ewen Chatfield, Terry Alderman, Dilip Doshi, Patrick Patterson

1990s

Marvan Atapattu, Gary Kirsten, Saeed Anwar, NS Sidhu, Mark Taylor, Michael Atherton, Sanath Jayasuriya, Vinod Kambli, Sachin Tendulkar, Michael Bevan, Graeme Hick, Mark Waugh, Mohammad Azharuddin, Steve Waugh, Brian Lara, Inzamam-ul-haq, Hashan Tillakaratne, Aravinda de Silva, Carl Hooper, Salim Malik (+), Graham Thorpe, Daryll Cullinan, Arjuna Ranatunga, Stephen Fleming, Hansie Cronje, Nasser Hussain, Robin Smith, Nathan Astle, Jonty Rhodes, Alec Stewart (+), Jimmy Adams (+), Romesh Kaluwitharana (+), Ridley Jacobs (+), Chris Cairns, Moin Khan (+), Ian Healy (+), Rashid Latif (+), Lance Klusener, Brian McMillan, Chaminda Vaas, Wasim Akram, Anil Kumble, Shane Warne, Darren Gough, Fanie de Villiers, Saqlain Mushtaq, Ian Bishop, Mushtaq Ahmed, Damien Fleming, Javagal Srinath, Curtly Ambrose, Waqar Younis, Allan Donald, Courtney Walsh, Angus Fraser, Danny Morrison, Glenn McGrath

2000s

Simon Katich, Matthew Hayden, Justin Langer (+), Graeme Smith, Virender Sehwag, Chris Gayle, Andrew Strauss, Mark Richardson, Marcus Trescothick, Herschelle Gibbs, Michael Vaughan, Tillakaratne Dilshan, Darren Lehmann, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Rahul Dravid (+), Ricky Ponting, Jacques Kallis, Thilan Samaraweera, Michael Hussey, VVS Laxman, Mahela Jayawardene, Misbah-ul-haq, Kevin Pietersen, Damien Martyn, Michael Clarke, Mohammad Yousuf, Yuvraj Singh, Younis Khan, Sourav Ganguly, Ramnaresh Sarwan, Kumar Sangakkara (+), Adam Gilchrist (+), MS Dhoni (+), Brendon McCullum (+), Mark Boucher (+), Shane Watson, Andrew Symonds, Shoaib Malik, Paul Collingwood, Andrew Flintoff, Shaun Pollock, Shahid Afridi, Daniel Vettori, Graeme Swann, Jason Gillespie, Harbhajan Singh, Brett Lee, Shane Bond, Shoaib Akhtar, Lasith Malinga, Stuart MacGill, Mohammad Asif, Chris Martin, Simon Jones, Stephen Harmison, Zaheer Khan, Muttiah Muralitharan

2010s (Min 5 Tests played in ICC '13)

Hashim Amla, Gautam Gambhir, Murali Vijay, Alistair Cook, David Warner, Mohammad Hafeez, Usman Khawaja, Martin Guptill, Cheteshwar Pujara, Dinesh Chandimal (+), JP Duminy, Virat Kohli, AB de Villiers (+), Umar Akmal (+), Jonathan Trott, Ian Bell, Dean Elgar, Ashwell Prince, Jonny Bairstow (+), Steven Smith, Ross Taylor, Faf du Plessis, Azhar Ali, Darren Bravo, Eoin Morgan, Asad Shafiq, Angelo Mathews, Matthew Prior (+), Brad Haddin (+), Ravi Ashwin, Ravi Jadeja, Marlon Samuels, Stuart Broad, Irfan Pathan, Vernon Philander, Mitchell Starc, Mitchell Johnson, Tim Southee, Ryan Harris, James Pattinson, Chris Tremlett, Peter Siddle, Wahab Riaz, Rangana Herath, Morne Morkel, Mohammad Aamer, Trent Boult, Ben Hilfenhaus, Nathan Lyon, James Anderson, Dale Steyn, Monty Panesar, Doug Bollinger, Saeed Ajmal, Steven Finn, Ishant Sharma

***** can choose anyone from Bangladesh, Zim or the associates.

Once everyone has posted their squads, harsh & HB will pick their squads.

 

[morgieb]

Churchdolflin XI

Bruce Mitchell
Len Hutton
Denis Compton
Dudley Nourse
Vijay Hazare
Keith Miller
Don Tallon
Ray Lindwall
Alec Bedser
Bill Johnston
Jack Iverson

Arthur Morris
Lindsay Hassett
Jack Cowie

BTW what determines eligibility? If it's debuts, then AFAIC I should be entitled to Harvey and the 3 W's.

 

[jimmy101]

Bruce Mitchell
Len Hutton
Denis Compton
Dudley Nourse
Vijay Hazare
Keith Miller
Don Tallon
Ray Lindwall
Alec Bedser
Bill Johnston
Jack Iverson

Arthur Morris
Godfrey Evans
Jack Cowie

Bruce Mitchell isn't eligible for your squad morgs. And you don't need to select a reserve keeper if you don't want.

 

[cnerd123]

How are the players added into ICC? Do you use their career averages? Or are they already in the database and you just make the teams? If I don't select a player who has played Tests, will their FC record be used? Is their in-game performance entirely tied into stats or is there some sort of 'skill' value?

Sorry for all the questions but need to know this before I go about selecting my side

 

[morgieb]

Bruce Mitchell isn't eligible for your squad morgs. And you don't need to select a reserve keeper if you don't want.

What is the main eligibility definer, FWIW? Because if it's Test debuts then my squad could be completely different.....

 

[jimmy101]

How are the players added into ICC? Do you use their career averages? Or are they already in the database and you just make the teams? If I don't select a player who has played Tests, will their FC record be used? Is their in-game performance entirely tied into stats or is there some sort of 'skill' value?

Sorry for all the questions but need to know this before I go about selecting my side

Around 95% of the players on the list are already in the game's database, I'll just be adding a few key players who were missing, & assigning them player ratings based on their FC stats & using player ratings of players with similar stats from the respective era in which they played in as reference points.

To define a players rating the game seems to use an engine based on FC stats that becomes expanded over time. generally the best players from their era are among the best in the entire game. Whatever equation the developers of the game used seems to factor in rising FC batting/bowling averages over time.

 

[jimmy101]

What is the main eligibility definer, FWIW? Because if it's Test debuts then my squad could be completely different.....

There isn't one clear main eligibility definer, I based my decisions on a combination of debut year, retirement year, the decade in which they made their strongest impact on the game, captaincy tenure, years & matches played in a decade etc etc.

Your squad is somewhat of an outlier morgs as I had to bend some of the rules to make it happen. Without it the 20's/30's & the 50's, especially, would be too strong, plus there were too few players who played exclusively in the 1940's to make a team such as that happen.

Since MM didn't pick him, you can have Mitchell.

 

[Nate]

Generation Snapchat squad -

Hashim Amla
Alastair Cook
David Warner
Cheteshwar Pujara
Virat Kohli
AB de Villiers
Steven Smith
Ross Taylor
Ravichandran Ashwin
Ravindra Jadeja
Vernon Philander
Ryan Harris
James Pattinson
Dale Steyn

Shakib Al Hasan has been replaced with Alastair Cook, as GS's manager immediately recants on his all-rounder strategy.

 

[jimmy101]

Oh, and a couple more things. This tournament will be staged entirely in England. Also, can everybody provide a name for their team, it'd be cool to not have to have scorecards that read "60's XI vs 00's XI" etc.

 

[jimmy101]

Generation Snapchat squad -

Hashim Amla
David Warner
Cheteshwar Pujara
Virat Kohli
AB de Villiers
Steven Smith
Ross Taylor
Ravichandran Ashwin
Shakib Al Hasan
Ravindra Jadeja
Vernon Philander
Ryan Harris
James Pattinson
Dale Steyn

Al Hasan is *****'s I'm afraid Nate

 

[The Battlers Prince]

Disco Flares

1. Barry Richards
2. Geoff Boycott
3. Glenn Turner
4. Ian Chappell
5. Greg Chappell
6. Zaheer Abbas
7. Clive Lloyd
8. Doug Walters
9. Mike Procter
10. Allan Knott
11. Vince Van Der Bijl
12. Andy Roberts
13. Dennis Lillee
14. Derek Underwood

 

[jimmy101]

Seventies

1. Barry Richards
2. Geoff Boycott
3. Glenn Turner
4. Ian Chappell
5. Greg Chappell
6. Zaheer Abbas
7. Clive Lloyd
8. Doug Walters
9. Mike Procter
10. Allan Knott
11. Vince Van Der Bijl
12. Andy Roberts
13. Dennis Lillee
14. Bishen Bedi
15. Derek Underwood

14 man squads Battlers. Need to drop a player.

 

[Nate]

Al Hasan is *****'s I'm afraid Nate

Shakibs.

 

[cnerd123]

Andy Flower and Shakib are literally the first names in my squad.

 

[Nate]

Andy Flower and Shakib are literally the first names in my squad.

I'll put this on your tombstone.

 

[Nate]

Generation Snapchat would like to request a friendly, using the following XI -

Alastair Cook
David Warner
Virat Kohli
Ross Taylor
Steven Smith
AB de Villiers (wk)
Ravichandran Ashwin
Ravindra Jadeja
James Pattinson
Vernon Philander
Ryan Harris

 

[Shri]

1. Saeed Anwar
2. Gary Kirsten
3. Brian Lara
4. Sachin Tendulkar
5. Steve Waugh
6. Alec Stewart
7. Chris Cairns
8. Wasim Akram
9. Shane Warne
10. Curtly Ambrose
11. Glenn McGrath

12. Inzamam Ul Haq
13. Allan Donald
14. Waqar Younis

 

[Shri]

*****, you ****, I picked Flower way back

 

[jimmy101]

*****, you ****, I picked Flower way back

Sorry Shri. ***** has the rights to Flower. You have plenty of other options for glovemen.