StephenZA
Hall of Fame Member
He has opened the bowling for us as well. Can just hope he is on top of his game and not his wayward self.
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South Africa team selection
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OverratedSanity
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He opens the bowling for the titans but that doesn't change the inconsistency. This season one game he took 5 for 20 and in another he went for 82 of 10. Morris is what he is, its way too late for him to change...
Bahseph
State Captain
Media reports suggesting it will be Shamsi tomorrow. If that's the case then I'm calling:
1. Qdk
2. Hash/Markram
3. Faf
4. Miller/Markram
5. Russie
6. Duminy
7. Lucky
8. Morris
9. Rabada
10. Tahir
11. Shamsi.
Hash seems to be back, and if he is he goes up top . Hope it's not Aiden to miss out.
1. Qdk
2. Hash/Markram
3. Faf
4. Miller/Markram
5. Russie
6. Duminy
7. Lucky
8. Morris
9. Rabada
10. Tahir
11. Shamsi.
Hash seems to be back, and if he is he goes up top . Hope it's not Aiden to miss out.
Dendarii
International Debutant
He does offer another bowling option, so that might result in his selection.
SeamUp
International Coach
List A stats
Once you moved past Morkel, Abbott, de Lange, Viljoen, Parnell, Wiese, Olivier I don't think any of these guys will be the answer.
MORRIS
Lions 23 wkts @ 34.82 @ 5.25 RPO
Titans 21 wkts @ 24.57 @ 4.60 RPO
SA A 14 wkts @ 14.71 @ 3.51 RPO
SA 35 wkts @ 40.42 @ 5.62 RPO
PRETORIUS
Lions 38 wkts @ 39.63 @ 5.23 RPO
SA A 15 wkts @ 27.60 @ 3.66 RPO
SA 24 wkts @ 31.70 @ 4.93 RPO
HENDRICKS
Cobras 25 wkts @ 28.44 @ 5.59 RPO
Lions 26 wkts @ 31.57 @ 5.54 RPO
SA A 22 wkts @ 41.04 @ 6.17 RPO
SA 1 wkt @ 81.00 @ 5.06 RPO
PATERSON
Dolphins 4 wkts @ 40.75 @ 6.03 RPO
Cobras 46 wkts @ 37.34 @ 5.36 RPO
SA A 17 wkts @ 25.11 @ 4.43 RPO
SA 4 wkts @ 54.25 @ 6.25 RPO
DALA
Titans 77 wkts @ 22.67 @ 5.81 RPO
SA A 8 wkts @ 35.75 @ 6.12 RPO
SA 1 wkt @ 121.00 @ 7.11 RPO
MAGALA
Warriors 63 wkts @ 32.57 @ 5.73
SA A 8 wkts @ 51.75 @ 6.90 RPO
Once you moved past Morkel, Abbott, de Lange, Viljoen, Parnell, Wiese, Olivier I don't think any of these guys will be the answer.
MORRIS
Lions 23 wkts @ 34.82 @ 5.25 RPO
Titans 21 wkts @ 24.57 @ 4.60 RPO
SA A 14 wkts @ 14.71 @ 3.51 RPO
SA 35 wkts @ 40.42 @ 5.62 RPO
PRETORIUS
Lions 38 wkts @ 39.63 @ 5.23 RPO
SA A 15 wkts @ 27.60 @ 3.66 RPO
SA 24 wkts @ 31.70 @ 4.93 RPO
HENDRICKS
Cobras 25 wkts @ 28.44 @ 5.59 RPO
Lions 26 wkts @ 31.57 @ 5.54 RPO
SA A 22 wkts @ 41.04 @ 6.17 RPO
SA 1 wkt @ 81.00 @ 5.06 RPO
PATERSON
Dolphins 4 wkts @ 40.75 @ 6.03 RPO
Cobras 46 wkts @ 37.34 @ 5.36 RPO
SA A 17 wkts @ 25.11 @ 4.43 RPO
SA 4 wkts @ 54.25 @ 6.25 RPO
DALA
Titans 77 wkts @ 22.67 @ 5.81 RPO
SA A 8 wkts @ 35.75 @ 6.12 RPO
SA 1 wkt @ 121.00 @ 7.11 RPO
MAGALA
Warriors 63 wkts @ 32.57 @ 5.73
SA A 8 wkts @ 51.75 @ 6.90 RPO
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
I actually reckon Pretorius would do a better job opening the bowling than Morris, particularly in England. I'd still be going all guns blazing up front with the best two quicks I think - early wickets are really important for SA's gameplan IMO, in contrast to other teams who could be more on track with just damage mitigation there - but if they wanted to give an allrounder a go with the new rock he's the one I'd pick. He's often really economical when he performs that role domestically, and with just that bit of extra nibble he could actually jag a wicket if the openers went hard at him.
It shows just how far from some of the former SA WC squads this is when we're openly discussing these things but I think it should be on the table.
StephenZA
Hall of Fame Member
None of this is new though. Morris is only around because of his hitting ability. Rest are avg. What upsets me is that we know all this, even the selectors must know this but the actually potential quality quicks are still sitting in SA. I would rather they be picking Dupavillion, Burger, Sipamla, Bosch; be quite happy to see Smith, Mulder at the moment. Why are we getting the guys that are unlikely to make a difference, we have seen it time and again; and leaving the quality potential youngsters at home (that may get battered but will learn a lot). Throw the dice, we basically have nothing to lose, but may just learn a lot and pull off a miracle. But that won't happen by playing safe with good FC players.
StephenZA
Hall of Fame Member
I think this becomes the safe option again, we need to stop playing safe.
Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
Probably the end of Steyn's career now, and personally feel sad that it's going to end playing this format (ODI's) as he's by far a better test bowler and might not get a proper send-off
I said it before, but why was there real need for Steyn to play in this WC? You could potentially get another year out of him in tests, and he's got through quite a few unscathed now.
Just feel gutted that this is likely the end
I said it before, but why was there real need for Steyn to play in this WC? You could potentially get another year out of him in tests, and he's got through quite a few unscathed now.
Just feel gutted that this is likely the end
StephenZA
Hall of Fame Member
There is obviously a weakness. It started when he played in IPL and now he got exacerbated during recovery. It seems that this was a matter of time rather than circumstance. From a purely SA team view point, it is probably better to happen during an ODI series (even WC) rather than middle of the first innings of a Test in India. I note some local media are talking about him coming back. I hope he does not (gutting as it is) because I almost feel he is threatening more serious permanent injury to his shoulder and that is not worth it. But sportsman do that a lot.
MrPrez
International Debutant
He had good form in the warm-up matches and was looking good before getting hit in the opening match. Duminy/Miller were competing with Markram, not Amla.
Heboric
International Debutant
Maybe Duminy should make way for Markram
StephenZA
Hall of Fame Member
No maybe about it.
We should have done it from the beginning, Maybe we have lots of practise injuries? Get Faf into a back room with a hammer and break a few fingers?
