View Poll Results: Greatest Match-Winner in the Australian Team of the 1990s-2000s?

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  • Glenn McGrath

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  • Shane Warne

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  • Ricky Ponting

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  • Adam Gilchrist

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Thread: Who was the biggest match-winner in the great Australian side?

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    Who was the biggest match-winner in the great Australian side?

    In perhaps the greatest Test team of all time, who would you rate as the biggest match-winner?

    Australia suffered many of their significant losses (though not all) in the absence of Glen McGrath:

    Ashes 2005 (Birmingham and Nottingham, both matches McGrath was absent
    Border-Gavaskar Trophy 2003 (Adelaide)
    Border-Gavaskar Trophy 1998 (Chennai and Kolkata)

    They managed fine without Warne when he was banned, though that doesn't take away from the genius of the man.

    With the bat, it has to be Ponting I guess, while Gilchrist was a pivotal member in so many ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harsh.skm View Post
    In perhaps the greatest Test team of all time, who would you rate as the biggest match-winner?

    Australia suffered many of their significant losses (though not all) in the absence of Glen McGrath:

    Ashes 2005 (Birmingham and Nottingham, both matches McGrath was absent
    Border-Gavaskar Trophy 2003 (Adelaide)
    Border-Gavaskar Trophy 1998 (Chennai and Kolkata)

    They managed fine without Warne when he was banned, though that doesn't take away from the genius of the man.

    With the bat, it has to be Ponting I guess, while Gilchrist was a pivotal member in so many ways.

    Besides these, if you think of somebody else, then please share.
    That is an excellent question that requires some thought. Leaning towards McGrath or Ponting. Gilchrist was just just demoralizing to teams coming in at 7 just to continue or increase the onslaught.
    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Waite+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3

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    Glen McGrath- easily
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    Openers: S.Gavaskar V.Sehwag Middle Order: V.Richards S.Tendulkar B.Lara All Rounders: G.Sobers I Khan (C) WK: A.Gilchrist Bowlers: W.Akram M.Marshall M.Muralitharan

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    WK: A.Gilchrist S.Tendulkar V.Richards R. Ponting M. Dhoni M. Bevan Allrounder: K.Dev Bowlers: W.Akram J. Garner M.Muralitharan G. McGrath

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    (Purely from a West Indian perspective) but it has to be Glenn Mcgrath. Gilchrist and Ponting came along when we were already a dire team ne way so we wouldve gotten beaten regardless. When we actually had a decent it was Steven Waugh and Glenn Mcgrath who made the difference for Australia. More so Mcgrath because he turned it on home and away. Warne we didnt fear that much though he did at times did well vs us but he didnt utterly demoralise us the way Glenn did
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    Mcgrath for sure.

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    Yeah definitely McGrath......not sure how to find it but I recall that the Aussies win/loss ration with him in the side to when he wasn't was absolutely ridiculous.

    As the OP mentioned you only have to look to the 2005 Ashes to answer this question.

    Surely Ponting shouldn't even be in the mix for this?? As great as he was in his pomp he was present through the Aussie transition into mediocrity.

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    Not an easy question to answer because the reason they were so dominant is that they were a great 'team'.

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    If the Aussie side of that era was a pimp, Warne and Ponting were the guns, Gilchrist was the flashy hat, Hayden was the cane and Marto the rings but Glenn McGrath was the heartbeat. The other guys maketh the pimp but McGrath was the reason they were alive in the first place.
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    McGrath for me. All the others had pretty good replacements if they ever got injured except for Gilchrist who was a luxury to have.

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    While Warne was definitely my favourite player from that team, it's probably McGrath who was the most crucial. I cursory look at the stats in the 1995-2007 period sorta backs this up. Overall, Australia played 143 matches, winning just over 67% of them and losing only 15%. McGrath missed 27 matches, and Warne missed 29 during this time.

    When Warne was missing, Australia still won 62% of their matches, and lost only 21%. When McGrath was missing, Australia won just 56% of their matches and lost nearly 26%. This doesn't consider the number of matches played against minnows or anything (both players missed two matches against each of Zimbabwe and Bangladesh), but it seems about right. Both players were crucial, but McGrath was just that bit more vital.
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    Australia only won 67.74% of the matches McGrath played.

    Australia won 70.45% of the matches MacGill played.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robelinda View Post
    McGrath easily for me.
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    Not an easy question to answer because the reason they were so dominant is that they were a great 'team'.
    Love the juxtaposition here.

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    Gotta be McGrath.
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