The First express fast bowler from INDIA!!

[Langeveldt]

Why do you say that Jacques?

India have the biggest population out of any test playing nation (except maybe Bangladesh) so I see no reason why India can't find a player who can bowl good pace.

Of course, its having the resources to find them and I don't think the Indian Cricket structure has helped either.

Well im generalizing loads, but all the indian seamers ive ever seen appear to be lithe and skiddy bowlers... (Take AA and Venkatesh Prasad) the majority of fast bowlers dont appear to have the build type to bang the ball down consistantly at 90+mph... Doesnt mean they cant be effective, they just dont seem to possess the explosive pace...

 

[Craig]

Re: too true

i still think west indies should produce more quicks than the rest as they are suited to it rather than most...


go go curtly ambrose

Take your pick from Dillion, Edwards, Taylor, Colleymore etc.

 

[Top_Cat]

If they were bowling that quickly there, how come they haven't been bowling that quickly either before or since?

I've read since that it's SA's thinner atmosphere due to being higher above sea-level than other nations. If you all don't believe that a small change in atmosphere can affect the speed of a ball, then why does the ball swing more with only a puff of wind or with some cloud-cover?

It's not as if the speed guns have been higher for that campaign only; they've always been registering high speeds in SA. And as one who bought the DVD of the whole WC campaign, I can tell you that there were an awful lot of batsmen who were beaten by extra speed in their dismissals so there must be something in the atmosphere theory.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Re: too true

i still think west indies should produce more quicks than the rest as they are suited to it rather than most...


go go curtly ambrose

Certainly you're not referring to the pitches... are you?

 

[V Reddy]

If they were bowling that quickly there, how come they haven't been bowling that quickly either before or since?

It was attributed to the two trainers Leipus and Le Roux. You hear the Indian players praising them in every other interview. They were said to be the main reason of Zaheer Khan of now too when he was fading away. There was a lot of criticism of BCCI when Le Roux joined SAF team but it cleared up when he said that he himself left as he wanted to serve his national team. You can search for " Le Roux India " on Google and you will find a lot of articles on him.

As for the speed guns, Nehra also bowled very often in the low 140's in India against WI in those very hot conditions but it was not noticed b'coz he got hammered in that series. I didn't see much of Ind-Nz series and so can't comment. I don't need to tell about Zaheer as we all know he can bowl fast. Agarkar also consistently used to bowl in the 140's when he came into the Indian team and used to reverse swing it too. But he now bowls in the low 130's and high 120's. That's why the commentators who have seen him when he first came on praise him and a lot was said of him :P

 

[anzac]

further to the speed gun debate - there is no uniformity regarding make or function, consequently different countries use different manufacturers and the equipment is designed differently.

eg some work like speed trap radar & measure straight line speed, whereas others take into account the flight of the ball and measure the speed off the wicket (or similar).

bottom line until there is some uniform regulations there will always be discrepencies and debate.

 

[anzac]

given the wide climatic variation in India you would think that if Pakistan can produce genuine quicks, then so too should India as it's not as if the entire country is a dust bowl!

Perhaps it has something to do with tradition i.e. both nations produce class batsmen, but India has a heavy history of spin, whereas Pakistan produces spin and pace????

 

[gibbsnsmith]

GibbsnSmith... Please do something about that signature!!!

It's about three times as long as it ought to be, and Andrew Flintoff has made a double ton in 20 overs of U15 cricket before anyway.

Agree, the speed guns at the WC seemed to round things up a touch

hehe ...i will just give it a couple more hours and ill get it out....and if the thingy about the speed guns are true...shoaib hasnt broken the 100mph barrier then...

 

[gibbsnsmith]

Re: Re: too true

Take your pick from Dillion, Edwards, Taylor, Colleymore etc.

im holding out for Curtly and Courtneys comebacks....

 

[Neil Pickup]

hehe ...i will just give it a couple more hours and ill get it out....and if the thingy about the speed guns are true...shoaib hasnt broken the 100mph barrier then...

Not happy yet, if you put the PC stats onto one/two lines rather than having returns in between them and cut out the double line spacing then you can get away with it

 

[gibbsnsmith]

ok gimme a sec..dude, lol

americans are so funny, like

 

[Neil Pickup]

americans are so funny, like

?! Relevance ?!

 

[gibbsnsmith]

oh, sorry, im also talkin on msn about americans so i went with the flow...but they really are though

 

[lord_of_darkness]

LOL yea they are.. but you should open a thread in off topic to talk about that :P

 

[gibbsnsmith]

i might just do that....

 

[Craig]

Well do!

 

[lord_of_darkness]

Yea well this fast bowler might be for real now, hes bowled to steve waugh etc from what i read in the MRF academy

 

[Rik]

ok gimme a sec..dude, lol

americans are so funny, like

Yeah dude, like, Americans are so funny I suppose I should find myself funny, like, because I'm American, like.

:duh: :duh: :duh:

 

[Rik]

And as one who bought the DVD of the whole WC campaign

What? How? Why? How Much?

 

[lord_of_darkness]

Lol i said make a topic in off topic on this