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    Quote Originally Posted by Howsie View Post
    Southee's quicker then what he was when he made his international debut, not a lot quicker but still a good 5 or so K's.
    Southee posted 140 k's on his 20/20 debut, and was bowling in the mid to high 130's in his test debut. His average pace has probably wobbled up and down since then, but it's not really any faster than when he was first introduced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blakey View Post
    McCone continues with some good form.

    I've heard people say you are either born with the ability to bowl fast or your not, and that hitting the 130's is achievable but anything 140 and above, then you have the gift. Also, it's very difficult to expect a player to get that much faster after around 21-22 years of age.

    Lastly, hitting 145's at 18-19 is not that common.
    Some people are born with it, but there's a few examples of dudes gaining pace floating around the world so I reckon it's probably uncommon but not unachievable.

    It's good to see some young guys hitting decent speeds. Milne has been clocked at 146kph (Champions League) and Small 143kph (U19 WC), while Verma is apparently fast and Mathieson and Boult are no slouches.
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    This Jayden Herrick hasn't had a good start. Three overs and conceeded 17 runs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Some people are born with it, but there's a few examples of dudes gaining pace floating around the world so I reckon it's probably uncommon but not unachievable.

    It's good to see some young guys hitting decent speeds. Milne has been clocked at 146kph (Champions League) and Small 143kph (U19 WC), while Verma is apparently fast and Mathieson and Boult are no slouches.
    What's happened to Bevan Small? Is he close to selection? Injured? Planning on moving somewhere else due to lack of opportunities? Seemed quite promising at the U19WC, swinging the ball both ways at 140k's. But I haven't heard anything of him since.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahnz View Post
    What's happened to Bevan Small? Is he close to selection? Injured? Planning on moving somewhere else due to lack of opportunities? Seemed quite promising at the U19WC, but I haven't heard anything of him since.
    Last I heard he's around the fringes of CD, but there's a logjam of young bowlers atm so he might be struggling to get up the pecking order.

    When Mason retires I'd like to see an attack of Wheeler, Milne, Small, Bracewell + someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Some people are born with it, but there's a few examples of dudes gaining pace floating around the world so I reckon it's probably uncommon but not unachievable.

    It's good to see some young guys hitting decent speeds. Milne has been clocked at 146kph (Champions League) and Small 143kph (U19 WC), while Verma is apparently fast and Mathieson and Boult are no slouches.
    From what was being said in the "how fast is fast" thread Mathieson is pretty rapid - mid 140s.

    Wheeler must be close to 140 also.

    CD bowling first and opening with Bracewell. Can he swing the ball? Looking at the overhead conditions out here and it might help the ball move a little.

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    Auckland vs CD starts and no Wheeler. Injured?

    Nethula also in the side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahnz View Post
    Auckland vs CD starts and no Wheeler. Injured?

    Nethula also in the side.
    Was about to post that - could be 12th man, like Boult is for Northern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahnz View Post
    Southee posted 140 k's on his 20/20 debut, and was bowling in the mid to high 130's in his test debut. His average pace has probably wobbled up and down since then, but it's not really any faster than when he was first introduced.
    The odd ball sure, but he'd usually hover around the 130-135 mark during his first year of international cricket. He was bowling quicker then he ever has before against Australia earlier this year where he was consistently around the 140K mark - espeically in the one day series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blakey View Post
    Wheeler must be close to 140 also.

    CD bowling first and opening with Bracewell. Can he swing the ball? Looking at the overhead conditions out here and it might help the ball move a little.
    Says who? While Wheeler has apparently put on a bit of pace, he was pretty pedestrian to begin with at the U19WC last year. Would be shocked if he was any quicker than about 135.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blakey View Post
    From what was being said in the "how fast is fast" thread Mathieson is pretty rapid - mid 140s.

    Wheeler must be close to 140 also.
    Wheeler at the U 19 WC was medium pace. Haven't seen him since so no idea how quick he bowls now. Swung the ball nicely at the WC though.

    From what I've gathered Mathieson isn't ultra rapid-high 130s to low 140s-but the bounce he gets from his height makes him feel a lot quicker.

    CD vs Auckland has started and Auckland have been inserted by CD.

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    Bhuphinder Singh

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    Brad Patton
    Mathew Sinclair
    Tim Weston
    Kruger van Wyk
    Kieran Noema-Barnett
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    Tarun Nethula
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blakey View Post
    From what was being said in the "how fast is fast" thread Mathieson is pretty rapid - mid 140s.
    Consistently 145+ according to Bradburn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howsie View Post
    The odd ball sure, but he'd usually hover around the 130-135 mark during his first year of international cricket. He was bowling quicker then he ever has before against Australia earlier this year where he was consistently around the 140K mark - espeically in the one day series.
    Don't remember that to be honest, didn't watch much of the test series v Aus. I've never seen him bowl quicker than the 135+ spell he bowled in his first morning of test cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howsie View Post
    Consistently 145+ according to Bradburn.
    Ooo gimme some height and speed thanks. Good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahnz View Post
    Don't remember that to be honest, didn't watch much of the test series v Aus. I've never seen him bowl quicker than the 135+ spell he bowled in his first morning of test cricket.
    It was the second ODI against Australia at Eden Park iirc. Easily the quickest spell I've ever seen him bowl, his speed was right up there with Bond's and Hopkins was taking good length balls right up by his face.

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