G.I.Joe
International Coach
Its not how you bowl, its what you have to show for it.
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*Official* India in Sri Lanka 2010 - Tests
- Thread starter Sir Alex
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Its not how you bowl, its what you have to show for it.
Sir Alex
Banned
Show me an Indian bowler who has been more "consistent" than him at this age? Don't give me the odd Joginders they are nothing at International level.
When has Sree been given a consistent long run in tests as well?
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Sir Alex
Banned
Teja.
Global Moderator
Makes it even more intresting if Minnows are removed off the bowler's records
Zaheer - 3.22 wpm, 35.03 ave., 64.1 SR
Sreesanth- 3.62 wpm, 31.25 ave., 55.9 SR
Manee
Cricketer Of The Year
Zaheer had a poor start to his career and picked it up since then. You know that, everyone knows that.
Since the beginning of 2007, the year in which Zaheer improved beyond recognition, he has 113 wickets at 29.43 with a 4.03 wpm.
pasag
RTDAS
Why no ODIs?
Sir Alex
Banned
Good one!
G.I.Joe
International Coach
Manee, that shows how poor Zaheer was before 2007. If he deserved persisting with before 2007, why not persist with Sreesanth who's already much better than Zaheer was at a similar stage in his career?
Besides, take out the 4 Bangladesh Tests, and there's little to choose between even Zaheer part II and Sreesanth.
Who's the competition for Sreesanth? Of those tested already, only Ishant comes close, and we have all seen how he's gone off the boil. Sreesanth deserves his spot in the team.
Pratters
Cricket, Lovely Cricket
This.
Zaheer was absolutely crap for the better part of his career before he improved his fitness issues and the issue of putting on weight periodically. Zaheer didn't deserve the several chances he was given in his career part 1. Just because Zaheer improved, doesn't mean Sreesanth will. The inconsistency which plagues Sreesanth is unreal. He can go from a very good spell to an extremely bad one. The extremes of his performances means I would choose a lesser erratic bowler like Ishant Sharma atm despite being off the boil as GI Joe puts it. I do believe Sreesanth has truckloads of talent though and I hope he does justice to his talent when it's all said and done. I don't think Sreesanth will be dropped though.
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Teja.
Global Moderator
Removing minnows,
Zaheer II(From the beginning of 2007) - 3.75 wpm, 31.75 avg., SR-58.7
Sreesanth- 3.63 wpm, 31.25 avg., SR-55.9
Still, statistically pretty identical.
Manee
Cricketer Of The Year
Who are these Test match minnows? A Test is a Test, imo. The fact that Sreesanth got carted by Bangladesh should not work in his favour.
Manee
Cricketer Of The Year
The fact that Zaheer has played more often emphasises that his stats have not been boosted by one performance, as Sreesanth's have. Moreover, Zaheer was not worth persisting with, he actually was dropped, went to county cricket, improved and earned his place. As for the competition, I'd start with Kulkarni and Vinay Kumar, although I'm sure you'd dismiss both as trundlers, which is a conversation that has been repeated all too often.
Teja.
Global Moderator
Sree has played only one test against Bangladesh and admittedly has not put in the the best of performances, Zaheer's stats are wildly exaggerated by the truckloads of wickets he takes against B'desh. Even if Sree's pathetic performance against B'desh is included and compared to Zaheer's performances elsewhere, there is not much of a statistical difference between the both of them. All that said, in present form, Zaheer is easily better, but Sree is a close second as far as Indian Pacers are concerned.
Shri
Mr. Glass
The one positive to take from Sreesanth's career so far is that he has not let injuries stand in the way of his bowling speed. He has consistently bowled in the 135-140 kph range. Something that Zaheer , Srinath etc were famous for. Swing can come and go with form if you keep working on it. Just needs to get more consistent with his performances to seal his spot as the country's second pacer.
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honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
yep.. lets have a look at the stats since Sree's debut for the two for comparison.. or even better, lets take a look at the tests when both have played together.