Langeveldt
Soutie
:O :O :O 130 Overs in a day!!! Thats a tad long isnt it?luckyeddie said:
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Why is NUL cricket only 45 overs long?
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luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
At the crazy rate at which overs are bowled now, absolutely.Jacques Rudolph said:
In the 1960's, the over rate was much more rapid than it is now. 15 overs an hour is utterly pathetic - and yet no-one can even manage that any more.
Take the 1965 Eng v SA test at Trent Bridge as a cogent example - on the first day, South Africa were bowled out in 101.3 overs - and there was still time for England to start their first innings.
How often do you see a bowler deliver a ball, it goes through to the keeper, he throws it to first slip, he throws it to gulley, he throws it to cover, he throws it to mid-off who polishes it and then gives it to the bowler - and HE's still standing at the return crease.
Walk back towards your mark, you idle gits.
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luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
BONG!Mr. Ponting said:
You win today's prize for the most illogical statement.
luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
Why do you think that bowlers get time off between overs? The skipper gives him a spit and a blow down at fine leg (might have to field 1 ball max). Are you saying that they need time off between every ball?Mr. Ponting said:
Of course the bowler has time to prepare before each ball. The game (test cricket) hasn't changed that much since I started watching it.
luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
OK.
I thought that it was more an intellectual discussion than an argument, but it's brought up some interesting comparisons regarding the game then and now.
I'm just not sure whether bowling is any better in general nowadays than it was in the 1960's.
You would think that it should be - bowling matters have been gone into in a more scientific manner with wind-tunnel tests and the like, and you would think that players SHOULD be fitter, but they seem to get injured so much more.
I'll go as far as saying that fielding techniques have improved beyond all recognition and that batsmen are fitter (Inzy and Blackwell are slim compared to Cowdrey, Milburn et al) but bowlers? Something's gone seriously wrong there.
Incidentally, Jimmy Binks (who kept wicket for Yorkshire) never missed a game in something like 17 years.
As Geoff Boycott once said "Too much bottled milk nowadays?"
I thought that it was more an intellectual discussion than an argument, but it's brought up some interesting comparisons regarding the game then and now.
I'm just not sure whether bowling is any better in general nowadays than it was in the 1960's.
You would think that it should be - bowling matters have been gone into in a more scientific manner with wind-tunnel tests and the like, and you would think that players SHOULD be fitter, but they seem to get injured so much more.
I'll go as far as saying that fielding techniques have improved beyond all recognition and that batsmen are fitter (Inzy and Blackwell are slim compared to Cowdrey, Milburn et al) but bowlers? Something's gone seriously wrong there.
Incidentally, Jimmy Binks (who kept wicket for Yorkshire) never missed a game in something like 17 years.
As Geoff Boycott once said "Too much bottled milk nowadays?"
SpaceMonkey
International Debutant
If you're Craig Walsh off the ECB forums then yes you doCraig said:
I knew it was you when you posted the exact same thread on both forums
Bazza
International 12th Man
To stick to the topic and summarise - what Eddie described evolved into the Sunday League, which complimented the championship in being a one day league. The name changed when games started aking place other than on Sundays (and after sponsors like AXA, Norwich Union etc arrived). It was always 40 overs until a few years ago when they increased it to 45. I think it should increase to 50 - seems entirely logical. I think it will before long, though as usual with the ECB, later than it should have been!
The Trophy, for a long time sponsored by Natwest (now C&G), used to be 65 overs, I certainly remember it as 60. I think it was reduced to 55 for a short period but is now 50.
The B&H Cup, which was scrapped this year to make way for the Twenty20 competition (it was felt two 50 over knockout comps weren't required), was always 50 overs I think, and had a similar structure to the Twenty20 - three preliminary groups of 6 teams, then into quarter finals (obviously Twnty20 went straight to semis but I think they might have quarters next year).
OK that's about it. Questions?
The Trophy, for a long time sponsored by Natwest (now C&G), used to be 65 overs, I certainly remember it as 60. I think it was reduced to 55 for a short period but is now 50.
The B&H Cup, which was scrapped this year to make way for the Twenty20 competition (it was felt two 50 over knockout comps weren't required), was always 50 overs I think, and had a similar structure to the Twenty20 - three preliminary groups of 6 teams, then into quarter finals (obviously Twnty20 went straight to semis but I think they might have quarters next year).
OK that's about it. Questions?
chris.hinton
International Captain
The National League should be 50 overs, i dont understand why it is 45 overs. i mean in this country we DO not play a competition with International cricket rules... the C and G trophy is played in whites and a red ball....... lets get with the times and move on
luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
Can anyone name ONE advantage of coloured clothing?
The only thing I can come up with is 'selling replica shirts'.
I guess I'm old-fashioned. What next - test cricket in jeans sponsored by Levi's?
The only thing I can come up with is 'selling replica shirts'.
I guess I'm old-fashioned. What next - test cricket in jeans sponsored by Levi's?
chris.hinton
International Captain
you are old-fashionedluckyeddie said:
Mr Mxyzptlk
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It's purely for the novelty and commercial value. Also, don't bright colours create urgency or something.