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oram and bond -souless greedy cricketers

sasnoz

Banned
i notice bond is on the ipl auction list,i wish the bcci had kept there ban on icl players so someone like bond should be punished for his greed,hes a ggutless coward who has no respect for new zealand cricket,its funny how he was always injury free when we were due to play minnows like bangladesh and zimbabwe but pulls away from the big teams

oram is a useless prick that thinks he bowls a glenn mcgrath line and length and that his bowling is vital for him as a test cricketer,the guy has an inflated ego and wouldnt make any other test team on the planet

nzc should have torn up there contracts and let them freelance the nzru would have
 

Somerset

Cricketer Of The Year
i notice bond is on the ipl auction list,i wish the bcci had kept there ban on icl players so someone like bond should be punished for his greed,hes a ggutless coward who has no respect for new zealand cricket,its funny how he was always injury free when we were due to play minnows like bangladesh and zimbabwe but pulls away from the big teams
Agreed, he must pick and choose when he injures himself. :laugh:

oram is a useless prick that thinks he bowls a glenn mcgrath line and length and that his bowling is vital for him as a test cricketer,the guy has an inflated ego and wouldnt make any other test team on the planet
A fully fit Jacob Oram would be a strong contender for the majority of any country's test match sides today without a shadow of doubt.

nzc should have torn up there contracts and let them freelance the nzru would have
NZC and NZRU are completely different in their approaches and justifiably so given the entirely different nature of the two sports. There would be outrage if NZC failed to contract Bond and Oram - I'm disappointed that neither are to ever represent New Zealand at test cricket again, but both Bond and Oram's injury records suggest they've made a wise decision to prolong their playing careers and retire from test cricket.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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This thread won't last long, but I'll bite for now. Bond has played less than 15 matches (Test + ODI) against minnows in his career (105 total matches).
 

sasnoz

Banned
what can oram offer as a test bowler,his batting is too incosistent to make it as a batsmen i cant think of a top 6 test team that would want him
test cricket is the ultimate why should nzc pay these guys money just to play 20/20
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
i notice bond is on the ipl auction list,i wish the bcci had kept there ban on icl players so someone like bond should be punished for his greed,hes a ggutless coward who has no respect for new zealand cricket,its funny how he was always injury free when we were due to play minnows like bangladesh and zimbabwe but pulls away from the big teams

oram is a useless prick that thinks he bowls a glenn mcgrath line and length and that his bowling is vital for him as a test cricketer,the guy has an inflated ego and wouldnt make any other test team on the planet

nzc should have torn up there contracts and let them freelance the nzru would have
Don't hold back; tell us what you really think.
 

Somerset

Cricketer Of The Year
what can oram offer as a test bowler,his batting is too incosistent to make it as a batsmen i cant think of a top 6 test team that would want him
test cricket is the ultimate why should nzc pay these guys money just to play 20/20
Perhaps because 20-20 is also where NZC make most of their money...

Oram at his peak as a batsman in the mid-2000s was outstanding at number six or seven, and in fact averaged 40 with the bat for a considerable period. When you considered his bowling attributes around that time too, you can see why comparisons to Chris Cairns were made.

His fall in effectiveness over recent seasons has been injury related, so of course something had to give - test cricket. But if hes fit to play ODIs and 20-20 as a result, why wouldn't NZC want a player of his calibre?
 

sasnoz

Banned
averaging 40 isnt anyhting special esp when scored his runs on flat wickets but dont get me wrong he would handy for the kiwi test side but he aint world class and his bowling is pathetic him and styris were batsmen first and foremost like jesse ryder who can also bowl so they should have prolonged there careers first and foremost as batsmen which allows them to still play test cricket
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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Oram at his peak as a batsman in the mid-2000s was outstanding at number six or seven, and in fact averaged 40 with the bat for a considerable period. When you considered his bowling attributes around that time too, you can see why comparisons to Chris Cairns were made.
Oram was never truly a 40+ bat though. His stats are a bit misleading that way. Take Bangladesh out and I suspect he'd never have averaged over 40. An average in the mid-to-high 30s is nothing to shrug off though, especially in a team like NZ.
 

SmityNZ

Cricket Spectator
I have the feeling you're the kind that rings talkback radio. The kind that are the reason I never listen to it.

Just as a tip - Styris started life as a specialist bowler, so your rant is factually flat on its face in that regard.
 
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Flem274*

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Oram was never truly a 40+ bat though. His stats are a bit misleading that way. Take Bangladesh out and I suspect he'd never have averaged over 40. An average in the mid-to-high 30s is nothing to shrug off though, especially in a team like NZ.
I dont think he's played much of Bangladesh. There's one century I remember but I think he may have been in hospital the other times we played them :p

Anyway, lol at sasnoz, what a tosser.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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I dont think he's played much of Bangladesh. There's one century I remember but I think he may have been in hospital the other times we played them :p
Just 5 Tests over 3 series and average only drops a run without them in there. But he's still never actually been a 40+ batsman though. Mid-30s is about right.
 

Craig

World Traveller
I dont think he's played much of Bangladesh. There's one century I remember but I think he may have been in hospital the other times we played them :p

Anyway, lol at sasnoz, what a tosser.
He has just returned from a 7 year exile in Hades.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
i notice bond is on the ipl auction list,i wish the bcci had kept there ban on icl players so someone like bond should be punished for his greed,hes a ggutless coward who has no respect for new zealand cricket,its funny how he was always injury free when we were due to play minnows like bangladesh and zimbabwe but pulls away from the big teams

oram is a useless prick that thinks he bowls a glenn mcgrath line and length and that his bowling is vital for him as a test cricketer,the guy has an inflated ego and wouldnt make any other test team on the planet

nzc should have torn up there contracts and let them freelance the nzru would have
And you think we care about what you have to say, why exactly?
 

sasnoz

Banned
I have the feeling you're the kind that rings talkback radio. The kind that are the reason I never listen to it.

Just as a tip - Styris started life as a specialist bowler, so your rant is factually flat on its face in that regard.
no it doesnt fall flat cos he was a **** bowler so it wasnt hard to become more worth with the bat,even martin crowe desrcribed him as an average bowler but a high quality batsmen so why would you jeopardise a career as a good test batsmen for being a dibbly limited over specialist, sorry mate but your explanation doesnt ring sense,curtly ambrose started off as a basketballer but ended as the greatest fats bowler ever so where does starting off count morron
 

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