The Best Allrounder All Time?

[luckyeddie]

He's one of the best allrounders that aren't officially considered allrounders.

Like Vetorri.

Not a lot

 

[Shahid_Afridi_6]

Not a lot

But you'll like it.

 

[Fusion]

I guess I'm joining an old debate here, but I'd rank Sobers as the best, then closely followed by Imran. Imran missed almost 3 years in his prime due to injury. Add to that the games he missed because of joining the Packer league and sitting out Miandad-led games during the player's revolt (all of this he has only himself to blame of course). It's highly probable that Imran would be a member of the 500 club if he hadn't missed all those games. I know, I know, injuries are a part of the game and we can't really dwell on the "what if's". However, I still think that Imran in his prime was the second best all-rounder ever.

 

[wpdavid]

Anyone fancy drawing up an all time XI of allrounders?

 

[ClownSymonds]

Well, I'd have to put Clown right up there...

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Yes, you would.

 

[chaminda_00]

Anyone fancy drawing up an all time XI of allrounders?

I give it a go

1. K Dev
2. C Walcott (wk)
3. J Kallis
4. K Miller
5. G Sobers
6. C Carins
7. A Flintoff
8. I Botham
9. I Khan (vc)
10. R Hadlee
11. R Benaud (c)

Did i miss anyone?

 

[Shoaib]

Top 5 allrounders of all time

Imran khan
Ian Botham
Kapil Dev
Gary Sobers
Chris Cairns

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

I give it a go

1. K Dev
2. C Walcott (wk)
3. J Kallis
4. K Miller
5. G Sobers
6. C Carins
7. A Flintoff
8. I Botham
9. I Khan (vc)
10. R Hadlee
11. R Benaud (c)

Did i miss anyone?

I'd say you missed guys like Proctor, Barlow and Mankad, two of whom were opening batsmen, which would solve your problem with Dev and Walcott up there.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Anyway, on the original point, the top five for me in order:

Gary Sobers
Imran Khan
Keith Miller
Ian Botham
Mike Proctor

The last one didn't play as much test cricket as he might have, of course, so Kapil could fit in there.

 

[chaminda_00]

I'd say you missed guys like Proctor, Barlow and Mankad, two of whom were opening batsmen, which would solve your problem with Dev and Walcott up there.

I know you rate Proctor and i rate him as a FC cricketer but he only played a handful of Tests, so i find it hard to put him infront of guys that preformed over a long period at test level. If i picked a more balanced side then Barlow and Goddard opening the batting. Mankad good but i think there are better all rounders, but his probably the 2nd best spin bowling all rounder.

Another team thats more balanced would look something like this:

1. T Goddard
2. E Barlow
3. J Kallis
4 K Miller
5. G Sobers
6. C Walcott (wk)
7. I Botham
8. I Khan (vc)
9. Kapil Dev
10. R Hadlee
11. R Benaud (c)

 

[SJS]

How can every one forget Saurav Ganguly ??

 

[C_C]

Top 10 allrounders IMO:

1. Sobers
2. Imran Khan
3. Keith Miller
4. Richard Hadlee
5. Kapil Dev
6. Vinoo Mankad
7. Jacques Kallis
8. Shaun Pollock
9. Ritchie Benaud
10. Ian Botham.

 

[Buddhmaster]

Top 10 allrounders IMO:

1. Sobers
2. Imran Khan
3. Keith Miller
4. Richard Hadlee
5. Kapil Dev
6. Vinoo Mankad
7. Jacques Kallis
8. Shaun Pollock
9. Ritchie Benaud
10. Ian Botham.

Dunno what everyone else thinks, but surely Bothom is better then Pollock

 

[chaminda_00]

Dunno what everyone else thinks, but surely Bothom is better then Pollock

I wouldn't have Pollock in my top ten personally, but when he retires people will look at his stats and say he must have been on of the great all rounders, batting ave of 30odd and bowling of 20odd. Whereas better all rounders like Carins, Dev, Botham, Flintoff and Mankad will all be around 30/30. Kind of shows how stats are misleading.

 

[C_C]

Dunno what everyone else thinks, but surely Bothom is better then Pollock

Dont think so- Botham definately was a better batsman than Pollock but IMO Pollock is a better bowler by a considerable distance.

 

[C_C]

Actually in light of better catching by Botham, i would rate him higher than Pollock. Just a regular swap between #10 and # 8.

 

[Mecnun]

Best ever: Gary Sobers
Followed by: Imran Khan
then by: keith Miller.

then comes the rest.

I will go with that.

Sobers
Imran
Keith Miller
Hadlee
Proctor
Botham
Kapil

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Dunno what everyone else thinks, but surely Bothom is better then Pollock

Agreed. Not even close, in my opinion. Botham is a better bowler by a narrow margin, and a better batsman by a mammoth margin, and a much better fielder as well.