Ponting > Bradman

Boobidy · 18-04-2008, 08:59 PM

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What have we became more skillfull in recent years? I think a lot of people would disagree including Donald Bradman

You are kidding aren't you?
If players haven't become more skillful in the years, then explain how Rugby League has evolved.
It wouldn't have survived 100 years without improving. Because it would be the same. It would be boring.
Have a look at footage of games from 10 years ago, let alone 100 years ago & the game has changed that much. It was incredibly slow, by comparison, to what it is now.

I'm not sure what cricket has to do with any of it, but in my opinion Ricky Ponting is a better batsman than Bradman ever was.
Bradman, like the 'Immortals', will live on through the ages, because in their day they were unrivalled.
I'm not sure how Bradman can disagree. He died a little over 7 years ago.

_Ed_ · 18-04-2008, 09:04 PM

Wow.

NZTailender · 18-04-2008, 09:04 PM

Haha, boobidy.

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chaminda_00 · 18-04-2008, 09:05 PM

Sangakkara > Ponting

therefore, Sangakkara > Bradman

Thioughts?

LongHopCassidy · 18-04-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Boobidy

You are kidding aren't you?
If players haven't become more skillful in the years, then explain how Rugby League has evolved.
It wouldn't have survived 100 years without improving. Because it would be the same. It would be boring.
Have a look at footage of games from 10 years ago, let alone 100 years ago & the game has changed that much. It was incredibly slow, by comparison, to what it is now.

I'm not sure what cricket has to do with any of it, but in my opinion Ricky Ponting is a better batsman than Bradman ever was.
Bradman, like the 'Immortals', will live on through the ages, because in their day they were unrivalled.
I'm not sure how Bradman can disagree. He died a little over 7 years ago.

Going to preemptively break the trend and reply seriously:

Jeff Thomson, a good 3 decades after 1948:

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On a rest day during the Indian tour in 1977-78, Don Bradman was around in the nets. I was bowling only legspin to him, but he had a couple of young blokes trying to get him out. With no pads, no nothing ... for a 68-year-old, he belted the hell out of them on a turf wicket. And he hadn't batted for 20 years. I went back in and said, "Why isn't this bastard playing with us tomorrow?" That's how good I thought he was.

Thommo's a hyperbolic ratbag at the best of times, but it's a fair rap for any man facing FC pace without pads on turf, never mind a batsman nigh on threescore years and ten - after the game's had 30 years to evolve since he retired. Says a lot for me.

silentstriker · 18-04-2008, 09:10 PM

Haha. Wrong forum to sprout those views mate.

silentstriker · 18-04-2008, 09:11 PM

And I must know the identity of this mythical other forum that is referenced so often. It ought to provide me with hours of free entertainment - anyone on MSN message me.

Boobidy · 18-04-2008, 09:22 PM

Bradman never batted against specialist spin bowlers.
He never faced a fast bowler who could bowl more than 130 kph.
Ponting led Australia to equal the world record of consecutive Test Matches won (16) & was still undefeated after 17 (16 wins, 1 draw).
Led Australia to a 5-nil Ashes whitewash, the first time that has happened in 86 years. Led Australia to a 1st ever 3 consecutive World Cup titles. Unbeaten in 29 World Cup matches, with a winning streak of 23.
Has a winning percentage of 77% since taking over as captain, which is beter than Steve Waugh's 71%. Holds the Australian record for most Test runs in a calendar season in 2005 (1544 runs). Became the 1st player to score a century in both innings of his 100th Test match. He is Australia's highest Test century maker (33). At the start of the 07-08 summer, he had 9368 runs, 3rd behind Border & Waugh.
Last year he took a clean sweep. Test player of the Year, One-Day player of the Year & the Allan Border medal.

Bradman does not boast his achievements.
Bradman was great, but no longer the greatest.

It's funny...each era people throw up a greatest player & yet people are afraid to knock down the predecessor. Thinking it is an insult to the player.

Bradman is not the greatest cricket has seen...in time, Ponting more than likely won't be either. But it doesn't take away from what they achieved in their time.

chaminda_00 · 18-04-2008, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Boobidy

Bradman never batted against specialist spin bowlers.
He never faced a fast bowler who could bowl more than 130 kph.

Ever heard Verity or Larwood?

silentstriker · 18-04-2008, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Boobidy

Bradman never batted against specialist spin bowlers.
He never faced a fast bowler who could bowl more than 130 kph.
Ponting led Australia to equal the world record of consecutive Test Matches won (16) & was still undefeated after 17 (16 wins, 1 draw).

Didn't he lose at Perth?

LongHopCassidy · 18-04-2008, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by silentstriker

Didn't he lose at Perth?

Yeah, but he drew at Perth in 2005/06, which he probably tacked onto the streak.

Boobidy · 18-04-2008, 09:54 PM

Bradman never had to face quicks like Sharma and Irfan Pathan. He wouldn't of lasted a ball against those 2, not to mention a spinner like Sehwag.

_Ed_ · 18-04-2008, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Boobidy

Bradman never had to face quicks like Sharma and Irfan Pathan. He wouldn't of lasted a ball against those 2, not to mention a spinner like Sehwag.

silentstriker · 18-04-2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Boobidy

Bradman never had to face quicks like Sharma and Irfan Pathan. He wouldn't of lasted a ball against those 2, not to mention a spinner like Sehwag.

Boobidy · 18-04-2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by _Ed_

Bradman's legacy is laughable.

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Boobidy Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Secret Posts: 23	Bradman never batted against specialist spin bowlers. He never faced a fast bowler who could bowl more than 130 kph. Ponting led Australia to equal the world record of consecutive Test Matches won (16) & was still undefeated after 17 (16 wins, 1 draw). Led Australia to a 5-nil Ashes whitewash, the first time that has happened in 86 years. Led Australia to a 1st ever 3 consecutive World Cup titles. Unbeaten in 29 World Cup matches, with a winning streak of 23. Has a winning percentage of 77% since taking over as captain, which is beter than Steve Waugh's 71%. Holds the Australian record for most Test runs in a calendar season in 2005 (1544 runs). Became the 1st player to score a century in both innings of his 100th Test match. He is Australia's highest Test century maker (33). At the start of the 07-08 summer, he had 9368 runs, 3rd behind Border & Waugh. Last year he took a clean sweep. Test player of the Year, One-Day player of the Year & the Allan Border medal. Bradman does not boast his achievements. Bradman was great, but no longer the greatest. It's funny...each era people throw up a greatest player & yet people are afraid to knock down the predecessor. Thinking it is an insult to the player. Bradman is not the greatest cricket has seen...in time, Ponting more than likely won't be either. But it doesn't take away from what they achieved in their time.

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Boobidy Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Secret Posts: 23	Bradman never had to face quicks like Sharma and Irfan Pathan. He wouldn't of lasted a ball against those 2, not to mention a spinner like Sehwag.

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