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  • Wasim Jaffer

    3 8.33%
  • Gautam Gambhir

    13 36.11%
  • Aakash Chopra

    15 41.67%
  • Dinesh Karthik

    3 8.33%
  • Rahul Dravid

    0 0%
  • Irfan Pathan

    2 5.56%
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    India's Test Opener

    In my opinion, Jaffer must be dropped immediately. In your opinion, who should partner Sehwag at the top?

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    Gambhir .... he will be looking forward to leverage his form in the CB series .... and a left-right combination helps
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    Aakash Chopra, wont happen though.
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    Hmm, let's see:

    Wasim Jaffer - A 'weak attack' and/or 'flat track' bully. Has a fatal technical flaw against outswingers on a good length or fuller outside the offstump (see Brett Lee). Lose him.

    Gautam Gambhir - Sadly, a minnow-basher. He did well at #3 in Australia...but that was in the ODI format. I wouldn't recommend his return just yet.

    Aakash Chopra - Infinitely better at seeing off the new ball than Wasim Jaffer and did act as a good foil to Sehwag - until October 2004, anyway.

    Dinesh Karthik - Hmm...his average has been propped up by runs against Bangladesh. That being said, though, his average against Australia should be ignored (Mumbai 2004) and he has managed runs against a strong bowling line-up in South Africa and an average-to-above average bowling line-up in England. He didn't cash in against Pakistan, but I'm still tempted to pick him.

    Rahul Dravid - No. He has a near-perfect technique, but you'd be compromising a strength to cover a weakness.

    Irfan Pathan - Certainly not.

    I'd go for either Karthik or Chopra, myself. If they're looking for someone to play a Jaffer-like role, then Chopra. If not, then I think Karthik should get a run. Due to the difference in circumstances, I'm not gonna vote on this one.


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    Chopra. Has by far, the best technique of the lot and by all reports is scoring a lot faster than he did when he was partnering Sehwag. Actually has good footwork unlike the others, a gun at short leg as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaRick View Post
    Hmm, let's see:

    Wasim Jaffer - A 'weak attack' and/or 'flat track' bully. Has a fatal technical flaw against outswingers on a good length or fuller outside the offstump (see Brett Lee). Lose him.

    Gautam Gambhir - Sadly, a minnow-basher. He did well at #3 in Australia...but that was in the ODI format. I wouldn't recommend his return just yet.

    Aakash Chopra - Infinitely better at seeing off the new ball than Wasim Jaffer and did act as a good foil to Sehwag - until October 2004, anyway.

    Dinesh Karthik - Hmm...his average has been propped up by runs against Bangladesh. That being said, though, his average against Australia should be ignored (Mumbai 2004) and he has managed runs against a strong bowling line-up in South Africa and an average-to-above average bowling line-up in England. He didn't cash in against Pakistan, but I'm still tempted to pick him.

    Rahul Dravid - No. He has a near-perfect technique, but you'd be compromising a strength to cover a weakness.

    Irfan Pathan - Certainly not.

    I'd go for either Karthik or Chopra, myself. If they're looking for someone to play a Jaffer-like role, then Chopra. If not, then I think Karthik should get a run. Due to the difference in circumstances, I'm not gonna vote on this one.
    Summed it up quite well. Karthik deserves another run but I'm afraid he'll never be seen as a permanent option because he's a manufactured opener who doesn't cash in on the flat tracks. Chopra has a great technique, has learned how to make big scores at a good rate and is awesome in the field. He's my man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaRick View Post
    Hmm, let's see:

    Wasim Jaffer - A 'weak attack' and/or 'flat track' bully. Has a fatal technical flaw against outswingers on a good length or fuller outside the offstump (see Brett Lee). Lose him.

    Gautam Gambhir - Sadly, a minnow-basher. He did well at #3 in Australia...but that was in the ODI format. I wouldn't recommend his return just yet.

    Aakash Chopra - Infinitely better at seeing off the new ball than Wasim Jaffer and did act as a good foil to Sehwag - until October 2004, anyway.

    Dinesh Karthik - Hmm...his average has been propped up by runs against Bangladesh. That being said, though, his average against Australia should be ignored (Mumbai 2004) and he has managed runs against a strong bowling line-up in South Africa and an average-to-above average bowling line-up in England. He didn't cash in against Pakistan, but I'm still tempted to pick him.

    Rahul Dravid - No. He has a near-perfect technique, but you'd be compromising a strength to cover a weakness.

    Irfan Pathan - Certainly not.

    I'd go for either Karthik or Chopra, myself. If they're looking for someone to play a Jaffer-like role, then Chopra. If not, then I think Karthik should get a run. Due to the difference in circumstances, I'm not gonna vote on this one.
    Pretty much sums-up my feelings. Jaffer and Gambhir all have some stuff to recommend them, but Chopra seems the best batsman. So far he hasn't really demonstrated this at Test level and I remain less than certain he would if given another chance. But he probably deserves one more than the rest.

    Personally though I'd give Jaffer the last Test, see if he does a Strauss. Never a massive fan of making what's likely to be a career-ending drop mid-series.
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    Looks like he might just get that opportunity at Kanpur.

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    Is Kanpur likely to be able to produce a result pitch? I hope so for India's sake, and ideally from their POV, a turner rather than a seamer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Pretty much sums-up my feelings. Jaffer and Gambhir all have some stuff to recommend them, but Chopra seems the best batsman. So far he hasn't really demonstrated this at Test level and I remain less than certain he would if given another chance. But he probably deserves one more than the rest.

    Personally though I'd give Jaffer the last Test, see if he does a Strauss. Never a massive fan of making what's likely to be a career-ending drop mid-series.
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    And picking someone for an odd Test at the end of a series (as would happen should Chopra be parachuted into the fray now) isn't often terribly constructive either.

    Chopra may be a better batsman, but Jaffer has been playing the SAfrican bowlers and will have become to an extent accustomed to them, while possibly lacking the capability to deal with them.

    If it was obvious, I'd say "drop him now". And clearly, being 0-1 down at home is a situation which calls more than most for desperate measures. But I'm not 100% convinced Chopra would neccessarily have a better chance of doing the job this upcoming game than Jaffer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    And picking someone for an odd Test at the end of a series (as would happen should Chopra be parachuted into the fray now) isn't often terribly constructive either.

    Chopra may be a better batsman, but Jaffer has been playing the SAfrican bowlers and will have become to an extent accustomed to them, while possibly lacking the capability to deal with them.

    If it was obvious, I'd say "drop him now". And clearly, being 0-1 down at home is a situation which calls more than most for desperate measures. But I'm not 100% convinced Chopra would neccessarily have a better chance of doing the job this upcoming game than Jaffer.
    Then say that then Richard.

    Your point in this post is COMPLETELY different to your original one, which pretty much said "don't make a career ending drop mid series", which I completely disagree with.

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    I firmly believe what I said in the first post too - but obviously there are circumstances under which this would change.

    I don't think there are enough of these circumstances in this case, TBH. If there were, I'd say Jaffer should be dropped now.

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    Not convinced with Karthik or Jaffer. I'm a big Gambhir supporter on these boards, so I'm voting for him, but if Chopra gets the next spot I hope he does all he can to cement his place. Either way, both Gambhir and Chopra play very often with Virender Sehwag as they are both from Delhi so they both have an excellent understanding and relationship between them.
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