Your country's all time ODI and test teams?

[Flem274*]

Sorry if this has been done before, but I though it would be interesting to see what everybody thinks each country's all time test and ODI teams would be.

For an NZ ODI team I would pick;

John Wright
Glenn Turner (not sure if he played ODI's)
Nathan Astle
Martin Crowe
Roger Twose
Chris Cairns
Richard Hadlee
Brendan McCullum
Dipak Patel/Daniel Vettori
Shane Bond
Geoff Allot/Ewen Chatfield(only with better fielding)

The test team is alot harder, though Bert Sutcliffe is an obvious inclusion. John Wright, Glenn Turner and Mark Richardson would be top order musts as well.

So what's your all time teams?

[Fiery]

Originally Posted by Flem274*

Sorry if this has been done before, but I though it would be interesting to see what everybody thinks each country's all time test and ODI teams would be.

For an NZ ODI team I would pick;

John Wright
Glenn Turner (not sure if he played ODI's)
Nathan Astle
Martin Crowe
Roger Twose
Chris Cairns
Richard Hadlee
Brendan McCullum
Dipak Patel/Daniel Vettori
Shane Bond
Geoff Allot/Ewen Chatfield(only with better fielding)

The test team is alot harder, though Bert Sutcliffe is an obvious inclusion. John Wright, Glenn Turner and Mark Richardson would be top order musts as well.

So what's your all time teams?

Turner was a very good ODI player. Played 41 games averaging 47. He innovatively hit and chipped over the infield to add another string to his bow. Cricinfo is great for checking things like this that you're not sure about mate. Vettori much > Patel btw but that's a pretty good team you've got there.

[Flem274*]

Originally Posted by Fiery

Glenn Turner was a very good ODI player. Played 41 games averaging 47. Cricinfo's great for checking things like this that you're not sure about mate

Thanks

[Perm]

Originally Posted by Flem274*

The test team is alot harder, though Bert Sutcliffe is an obvious inclusion. John Wright, Glenn Turner and Mark Richardson would be top order musts as well.

I wouldn't say that Mark Richardson is a must, I think he only played 30 odd Test matches for New Zealand.

[Fiery]

Originally Posted by Perm

I wouldn't say that Mark Richardson is a must, I think he only played 30 odd Test matches for New Zealand.

38. I don't think he would quite make my test side over Wright and Turner

[Matt79]

Originally Posted by Flem274*

Sorry if this has been done before, but I though it would be interesting to see what everybody thinks each country's all time test and ODI teams would be.

For an NZ ODI team I would pick;

John Wright
Glenn Turner (not sure if he played ODI's)
Nathan Astle
Martin Crowe
Roger Twose
Chris Cairns
Richard Hadlee
Brendan McCullum
Dipak Patel/Daniel Vettori
Shane Bond
Geoff Allot/Ewen Chatfield(only with better fielding)

The test team is alot harder, though Bert Sutcliffe is an obvious inclusion. John Wright, Glenn Turner and Mark Richardson would be top order musts as well.

So what's your all time teams?

No Flem?

[Fiery]

Originally Posted by Matt79

No Flem?

Fleming over Wright for mine

[Perm]

I'd have him in there for John Wright.

Wright averages 26 with only one century, at a strike rate of less than 60. Not good enough to make an All-Time XI.

[Flem274*]

Originally Posted by Matt79

No Flem?

I wanted to, trust me. I couldn't justify it ahead of those other guys though.

On the Openers for the tests, here are the figures;

Richardson; 38 tests, 2776 runs @ 44.77, HS 145, 4 100's, 19 50's and not a bad bowling average.

Wright; 82 tests, 5334 runs @ 37.82, HS 185, 12 100's, 23 50's

Turner; 41 tests, 2991 runs @ 44.64, 7 100's, 14 50's

Hard choice, Probably Turner and Wright because of experience, but Richardson and Turner on results. Richardsons only 35 apparently, why did he retire? Not as though there was much competition for his spot.

[Flem274*]

Originally Posted by Perm

I'd have him in there for John Wright.

Wright averages 26 with only one century, at a strike rate of less than 60. Not good enough to make an All-Time XI.

oops. Astle to open then, Crowe to three and Fleming to four.

[Perm]

Originally Posted by Flem274*

I wanted to, trust me. I couldn't justify it ahead of those other guys though.

On the Openers for the tests, here are the figures;

Richardson; 38 tests, 2776 runs @ 44.77, HS 145, 4 100's, 19 50's and not a bad bowling average.

Wright; 82 tests, 5334 runs @ 37.82, HS 185, 12 100's, 23 50's

Turner; 41 tests, 2991 runs @ 44.64, 7 100's, 14 50's

Hard choice, Probably Turner and Wright because of experience, but Richardson and Turner on results. Richardsons only 35 apparently, why did he retire? Not as though there was much competition for his spot.

You named an ODI team in your top post, I think that is what he was talking about. Richardson retired because he wasn't enjoying the game anymore I don't think, he was only about 31 or 32 if I remember correctly.

[Flem274*]

Originally Posted by Perm

You named an ODI team in your top post, I think that is what he was talking about. Richardson retired because he wasn't enjoying the game anymore I don't think, he was only about 31 or 32 if I remember correctly.

It's a shame, he was a great opener for us. I didn't care how slowly he got the runs as long as we got them.

[Perm]

Originally Posted by Flem274*

It's a shame, he was a great opener for us. I didn't care how slowly he got the runs as long as we got them.

He wasn't great, but he was a good opener. However, given his lack of ability in ODI cricket I doubt he would've been too happy with playing less than 5 Test's a year in order to make a living.

[Flem274*]

Originally Posted by Perm

He wasn't great, but he was a good opener. However, given his lack of ability in ODI cricket I doubt he would've been too happy with playing less than 5 Test's a year in order to make a living.

Very true. Hope we get some more test cricket soon. I love ODI's, but tests are awesome. Hopefully Justin Vaughan can bully the ICC into giving us more.

[Perm]

Originally Posted by Flem274*

Very true. Hope we get some more test cricket soon. I love ODI's, but tests are awesome. Hopefully Justin Vaughan can bully the ICC into giving us more.

I really don't think it's the ICC who are to blame, NZC have to take some of the wrap for not wanting to schedule Test matches.