Marcus Trescothick

Langeveldt · 16-04-2007, 02:32 PM

He has my utmost respect as a bloke..

It took me a while to realize how bad this lifestyle really is, when you get on a night flight that takes you further away from people who constantly remind you how much they love you. When you get something like two weeks with them, it's just enough time to make you realize what you no longer have when you get on that plane, empty flights being the worst.. You're whole life screwed up in a suitcase when you get to the other end in a blank room.. I thought about Tres somewhere over Africa last night.

I reckon it took more balls for him to face up to his problems while all and sundry (me included) had a go at him for his "weakness" , but after all, he wasn't running away, he was running back..

AussieDominance · 16-04-2007, 02:37 PM

That came out of nowhere

Barney Rubble · 16-04-2007, 02:43 PM

Rich getting philosophical again, always provokes a good discussion.

I personally feel the lack of support for Marcus shown by the British press and public has been tantamount to a betrayal. The man has put every ounce of his energy into becoming a key component of a successful side in recent years, a side which has, let's face it, fallen apart in his absence, and yet when he most needs the support of the supporters who've been more than happy to cheer every run he scores for the last seven years, some of them have knifed him in the back in a heartbeat.

His recent affliction is one that has confused a lot of people, but that is by no means an excuse for some of the reactions that have greeted it. The fact that he has been diagnosed with what is effectively a mental illness should be cause for sympathy, and certainly not criticism.

I for one cannot wait for the day he returns to the England side - he is the most successful English batsman of his generation, and deserves better than to be treated like he still has something to prove.

Langeveldt · 16-04-2007, 02:51 PM

I think the main gripe was with his bungling of what was really wrong with the media initially.. Lost a lot of respect for that, I can see where he's coming from though, not always easy to tell people what's going on when you have McGrath and co coming up with comments..

Barney Rubble · 16-04-2007, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Langeveldt

I think the main gripe was with his bungling of what was really wrong with the media initially.. Lost a lot of respect for that, I can see where he's coming from though, not always easy to tell people what's going on when you have McGrath and co coming up with comments..

Admittedly he didn't handle it very well to begin with media-wise, but he's recently said that part of the reason was that he didn't understand what was happening to him, so couldn't give a reasonable explanation.

It's not just that though, people were levelling accusations that he was "picking and choosing" his matches and tours, which is just ridiculous. The guy's the ultimate team player, there's never been any suggestion otherwise.

simmy · 16-04-2007, 04:59 PM

Rich you think too much. Just relax.

Isolator · 16-04-2007, 11:21 PM

Most other players I'd feel differently about, but for Trescothick all I have is

_Ed_ · 16-04-2007, 11:29 PM

Harsh. Trescothick seems like a good bloke, hope he gets through this alright.

Perm · 16-04-2007, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Isolator

Most other players I'd feel differently about, but for Trescothick all I have is

Insensitive morons like yourself are probably part of the reason Trescothick has struggled to talk to the media about this.

SJS · 16-04-2007, 11:55 PM

I wonder if there is a 'caste-system' in English cricket as in india where mega-stars (brahmins) are treated differently than the 'shudras' ?

Wonder if the same had happened to, God Forbid, someone like Flintoof......

Isolator · 17-04-2007, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Perm

Insensitive morons like yourself are probably part of the reason Trescothick has struggled to talk to the media about this.

Err...sorry. It's a completely irrational dislike. Problem is on TV these guys are just personas, so to speak, rather than real people. So it's quite easy to get into (for me anyway) a "ARR I DON'T LIKE YOUR FACE, DIE!" mentality. I deserve all the flak I get for this, but I can't help it.

Perm · 17-04-2007, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Isolator

Err...sorry. It's a completely irrational dislike. Problem is on TV these guys are just personas, so to speak, rather than real people. So it's quite easy to get into (for me anyway) a "ARR I DON'T LIKE YOUR FACE, DIE!" mentality. I deserve all the flak I get for this, but I can't help it.

I can understand if you dislike a high level cricketer, there are quite a few of them I dislike too but there is no reason to laugh at them when they are struck down by a serious mental illness like depression.

amokk1 · 17-04-2007, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Perm

I can understand if you dislike a high level cricketer, there are quite a few of them I dislike too but there is no reason to laugh at them when they are struck down by a serious mental illness like depression.

Depression ? A serious mental illness ? What rubbish. If I was Marcus's old man, I would have given him two sticks on the legs. Be a man, face your problems..don't cry over it.

Isolator · 17-04-2007, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Perm

I can understand if you dislike a high level cricketer, there are quite a few of them I dislike too but there is no reason to laugh at them when they are struck down by a serious mental illness like depression.

Not really laughing at him (that was Nelson, I couldn't stop him)... but ahh I don't know. I mean say if Matthew Hayden had his skull cracked by a bouncer I wouldn't be sad. It's sort of like that. It's an a**hole opinion, I know.

Perm · 17-04-2007, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by amokk1

Depression ? A serious mental illness ? What rubbish. If I was Marcus's old man, I would have given him two sticks on the legs. Be a man, face your problems..don't cry over it.

Thing is, no matter how tough you try and act about it you are always going to get down when you're alone and in the situation he was in. Trust me, I know all about depression and it may not affect you too much infront of your friends or during the cricket match or whatever, but behind the scenes when you have time to sit back and think about it, it will ultimately get you down. A kick in the arse won't help.

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AussieDominance Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 3,746	That came out of nowhere

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Barney Rubble International Coach Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: All over the shop Posts: 10,191	Rich getting philosophical again, always provokes a good discussion. I personally feel the lack of support for Marcus shown by the British press and public has been tantamount to a betrayal. The man has put every ounce of his energy into becoming a key component of a successful side in recent years, a side which has, let's face it, fallen apart in his absence, and yet when he most needs the support of the supporters who've been more than happy to cheer every run he scores for the last seven years, some of them have knifed him in the back in a heartbeat. His recent affliction is one that has confused a lot of people, but that is by no means an excuse for some of the reactions that have greeted it. The fact that he has been diagnosed with what is effectively a mental illness should be cause for sympathy, and certainly not criticism. I for one cannot wait for the day he returns to the England side - he is the most successful English batsman of his generation, and deserves better than to be treated like he still has something to prove.

16-04-2007, 02:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
Langeveldt Soutie Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Stellenbosch - South Africa Posts: 29,336	I think the main gripe was with his bungling of what was really wrong with the media initially.. Lost a lot of respect for that, I can see where he's coming from though, not always easy to tell people what's going on when you have McGrath and co coming up with comments..

16-04-2007, 04:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
simmy International Regular Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Kent, England Posts: 3,039	Rich you think too much. Just relax.

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Isolator State 12th Man Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: India Posts: 752	Most other players I'd feel differently about, but for Trescothick all I have is

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_Ed_ Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Auckland, Aotearoa Posts: 19,102	Harsh. Trescothick seems like a good bloke, hope he gets through this alright.

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SJS Hall of Fame Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Mumbai India Posts: 19,170	I wonder if there is a 'caste-system' in English cricket as in india where mega-stars (brahmins) are treated differently than the 'shudras' ? Wonder if the same had happened to, God Forbid, someone like Flintoof......

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