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    25/25/25/25

    A recent WC match made me think about something Glen Turner had expressed, that the one day game requires a 2 innings format. the match was between RSA & NZ the over head and pitch conditions contributed largely to the 1st stanza of the match and RSA score reflected the difficulties. I think Glen Turner is on to something here, in away it'll at less level out the effects of the conditions plus any decision made whether to bat or bowl that did mot give you satifactory results, giving both teams the ability to address their postion mid way through both diciplines.

    instead of the per nrmal 50 over vs 50 overs, how about first 50 and 2nd 50 overs split between the teams 25 each. the not out batsmen from your first 25 overs will return to continue from your 2nd set of 25 overs.
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    I went for 50 overs straight, otherwise it will just turn into a slogfest of Twenty20 proportions.
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    it would be a change, that's for sure. But not one I'd be particularly interested in seeing.
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    I think ten innings of five overs each would be much more fun and oooooohhhhhhh so exciting !!!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by SJS View Post
    I think ten innings of five overs each would be much more fun and oooooohhhhhhh so exciting !!!!!!
    Stop being tied to the past - 50 innings of an over each is clearly the way of the future!

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    Im not really sure a slog fest would occur, sure some teams may throw everything at in the first 25, other teams might chose to pace their first 25. its just points clearly that it would all be about game management.

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    Sounds like it will just be a longer version of Cricket Max tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiWiNiNjA View Post
    Sounds like it will just be a longer version of Cricket Max tbh
    I think this is the best format.

    1. The batsmen of the two teams should line up and try to hit alternate balls for sixes.
    - The teams will play five batsmen each with every batsman having to play a minimum of six overs.
    - The order of the batsmen can be changed for every delivery to suit match condition and the mental toughness of the concerned player.
    2. The team with the highest number of sixes in hundred balls should be declared the winner.
    3. In case of a tie, the boundaries should also be added.
    4. If a tie persists the number of wickets fallen should be taken into account.
    5. If it still results in a tie one ball per batsman should be played by both teams for six hitting till the tie is broken.
    6. Since the bowlers are likely to kill themselves ICC should allow bowling machines to be used. There are distinct advantages
    - Bowling machines dont break their ankles
    - Bowling machines dont need coaches just annual maintenance contracts
    - Bowling machines dont compalin about pitch conditions
    - Captains will be able to concentrate on other things since bowling changes will not be a headache any more.
    7. Teams should play five batsmen, one wicket keeper and five specialist fielders.
    8. In case of a batsmen getting hurt during the match the wicket keeper should be allowed to fill in his place.

    I can work on making it more exciting and technically complex if ICC gives me the job.

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    Be careful SJS. Someone might just take your words too seriously ... we've seen it happen before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJS View Post
    I think this is the best format.

    1. The batsmen of the two teams should line up and try to hit alternate balls for sixes.
    - The teams will play five batsmen each with every batsman having to play a minimum of six overs.
    - The order of the batsmen can be changed for every delivery to suit match condition and the mental toughness of the concerned player.
    2. The team with the highest number of sixes in hundred balls should be declared the winner.
    3. In case of a tie, the boundaries should also be added.
    4. If a tie persists the number of wickets fallen should be taken into account.
    5. If it still results in a tie one ball per batsman should be played by both teams for six hitting till the tie is broken.
    6. Since the bowlers are likely to kill themselves ICC should allow bowling machines to be used. There are distinct advantages
    - Bowling machines dont break their ankles
    - Bowling machines dont need coaches just annual maintenance contracts
    - Bowling machines dont compalin about pitch conditions
    - Captains will be able to concentrate on other things since bowling changes will not be a headache any more.
    7. Teams should play five batsmen, one wicket keeper and five specialist fielders.
    8. In case of a batsmen getting hurt during the match the wicket keeper should be allowed to fill in his place.

    I can work on making it more exciting and technically complex if ICC gives me the job.
    considering your home country, your team might have find Glen Turner format helpful.

    End of over 25 (wicket maiden) - India 72/4 (RR: 2.88) = wheather condition factor.

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    End of over 25 (2 runs) - South Africa 68/3 (RR: 2.72) = wow look at the comparison to india vs bang match.

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    whats there to explain,Ive already said it
    I think Glen Turner is on to something here, in away it'll at less level out the effects of the conditions plus any decision made whether to bat or bowl that did not give you satifactory results, giving both teams the ability to address their postion mid way through both diciplines.

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    i can see the votes are followering the "no change" idea, for your interest Glen turner came up with idea over a decade ago, brfore 20/20 and max. Also last year ian healey mentioned the same idea aftera match where wheather conditions played a major role towards outcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJS View Post
    I think this is the best format.

    1. The batsmen of the two teams should line up and try to hit alternate balls for sixes.
    - The teams will play five batsmen each with every batsman having to play a minimum of six overs.
    - The order of the batsmen can be changed for every delivery to suit match condition and the mental toughness of the concerned player.
    2. The team with the highest number of sixes in hundred balls should be declared the winner.
    3. In case of a tie, the boundaries should also be added.
    4. If a tie persists the number of wickets fallen should be taken into account.
    5. If it still results in a tie one ball per batsman should be played by both teams for six hitting till the tie is broken.
    6. Since the bowlers are likely to kill themselves ICC should allow bowling machines to be used. There are distinct advantages
    - Bowling machines dont break their ankles
    - Bowling machines dont need coaches just annual maintenance contracts
    - Bowling machines dont compalin about pitch conditions
    - Captains will be able to concentrate on other things since bowling changes will not be a headache any more.
    7. Teams should play five batsmen, one wicket keeper and five specialist fielders.
    8. In case of a batsmen getting hurt during the match the wicket keeper should be allowed to fill in his place.

    I can work on making it more exciting and technically complex if ICC gives me the job.
    That's a really silly idea SJS.

    I mean there are five specialist fielders in those teams who are doing nothing entertaining at all. Crowds like to see batsmen playing shots and scoring boundaries - having fielders on the field interfering is hardly going to assist that. Why not cut out the deadwood - the boring stuff - and just go with 11 batsmen. The bowling machine can handle the regrettable necessity of some means to propel the ball for the batsmen to hit and we can do away with the anarchronism of the wicket keeper by having a net behind the wicket and a big enough hopper of balls on the bowling machine to last an innings - without having to wait for the one ball to be returned from one end of the pitch to the other.

    The only problem is the cricket ball, which besides hurting if it should strike a batsman - thus discouraging entertaining sweeps and reverse sweeps to the quicks, sometimes deviates in the air or off the pitch, making entertaining play impossible. We'll replace the cricket balls with tennis balls, which provide more even bounce and go further when struck by the aluminium bats we'll be introducing.

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    I think its a perfectly valid idea. Its not as though its 2 separate innings a team would play, just one innings but split.

    The toss would become less important than it is now
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