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ODI rule changes

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
It'd be day , day/night cricket then. The game today would have started at 1:30 am (GMT) and finished at 12:30pm (GMT). Thats way too much cricket in one day.
Why? It never used to be so. There's no reason at all why you can't play 120 overs' of cricket in a day. Any finish later than 10:30PM would be too late. But it doesn't matter when you start.
Its only asking professionals to bowl straight. I can do it (well most of the time) why can't these lot.
Your definition of "straight" is rather different to that at international level.

Most club bowlers who think they can "bowl straight" would have rather a rude-awakening were they to be pitched into an international.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Agree, although I think having it every two years might change that status.
Actually, now I think about it, it's not - the most recent Champions Trophy, for only the 2nd time ever (2000 being the other, though obviously it was the Knockout Trophy then), was actually a Global event with some meaning - all it needed was a sane format and being played at a time of year when it wasn't raining.

There are two alternatives - play a full-fledged World Cup every 2 years, or play a World Cup every 4 and a Champions Trophy every 4 - but give the Champions Trophy the credit it has shown quite clearly that it deserves. That way you have one big and one small tourney involving all teams.

IMO the current biennial Champions Trophy is utterly stupid. Just imagine how good the thing might have been had the 2004 event been played in the English midsummer, away from a World Cup, in the format employed in 2006.
 

Dick Rockett

International Vice-Captain
There are two alternatives - play a full-fledged World Cup every 2 years, or play a World Cup every 4 and a Champions Trophy every 4
That's the better option IMO. It's ridiculous having had a CT only a few months ago, and the WC next month.
 

Neil Pickup

Cricket Web Moderator
How about...

2007 World Cup
2008 Twenty20
2009 Champions Trophy
2010 Twenty20
2011 World Cup
2012 Twenty20
2013 Champions Trophy
2014 Twenty20
2015 World Cup

...etc?
 

Dick Rockett

International Vice-Captain
Well that's happening like it or not so you may as well appropriate your schedules.
Huh? We're obviously talking hypothetically so I don't see why I should. Surely it's just as valid to say "never" as it is to say "every four years", or whatever.
 

FRAZ

International Captain
How about eliminating 20-20 altogether and introducing 40 over one dayers . I have presented this idea a long time ago !
 

LA ICE-E

State Captain
no point of 40 overs one-dayers, it would neither have the mild part of 50 overs and would still be time more consuming 20/20. Also there should never be world cups every 2 years that just takes its value away. having the CT every 4 years gives it more value and wont be much difference from the world cup. so it would be like having world cup every 2 years anyway with just different names. Best thing is to not continue the CT. It should look like this-
2007 World Cup
2008 Twenty20
2009 Womens world cup
2010 Twenty20
2011 World Cup
2012 Twenty20
2013 Womens world cup
2014 Twenty20
2015 World Cup

and so on

or
2007 World Cup & Twenty20
2008 CT
2009 Womens world cup & Twenty20
2010 CT
2011 World Cup
2012 Twenty20 & CT
2013 Womens world cup
2014 Twenty20 & CT
2015 World Cup

CT and 20/20 could be in the same year as both of them are lower class tournaments. CT should be changed to Knockout again(i heard it was changed cause the aussies whined about not getting there so it was changed to round robin). Also 20/20 will be different from CT so both them can hold their own in the same year.
Should have only one tournament thats every 4 years- WC that gives it the ultimate value.

ODI stadiums should have bigger minimum playing area requirements and tour rules should be changed to test- 2-3 ODI- 3-5 20/20- 1 per tour
 
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LA ICE-E

State Captain
hmm this idea is stupid but still an idea- like power plays the bowling captain should be able pick from two different balls, a new one and a old one. so like the team could choose the old ball after 10 overs and than pick the new ball again later on. It could be like you could use the new ball for 20 overs(when ever you choose) and then you would have to use the old ball for 30 overs(whenever) just givng the bowling teams options....would still be the same as now because a new ball is new for about 20 overs but you could choose to use it for 10 over in the begining and that choose the old ball for say 10 overs and bring the new ball back...it would be like powerplays kind of but with the ball...
 

The Argonaut

State Vice-Captain
I don't think there's too much wrong. There is that lull period in the game from 20-40 overs that needs to be looked at. Whether the fielding restrictions could be changed like the Asutralian state OD tournament. 2 outside the circle from 1-15, 3 from 16-30 and 5 from 31-50. Try to encourage shot making in the dull overs. This will also lead to more wickets as the batsmen chance their arms more.

Maybe they could also work on the ball itself. The white ball tends to turn into the same colour as the pitch at the 35-45 over mark. Have they tried orange or yellow. The ball also tends to swing only for a couple of overs and then stops.
 

LA ICE-E

State Captain
cant change the colors as they will interfere with the teams' kits orange- against netherlands orange kit would be invisible, yellow against the aussie yellow kits would be the same situation.
 

biased indian

International Coach
one simple need every team should have two set of jerseys......

its bad seeing SA VS PAK..... now AUS vs BAN even if few games

SL VS IND VS ENG hmmmmmmmm..we should have have more diff colours like in football hmmm
 

Matt79

Global Moderator
I'm no fan of Bouncers in one-dayers, personally. Bowling top-of-off\Yorker takes skill - any fool can bowl a few Bouncers.
I absolutely agree. Any fool can bowl bouncers. There's a reason why they don't though beyond the rules however, in that the bouncer is a risky delivery in that it provides a batsman with an opportunity to score a boundary. So it becomes a real test of skill and nerve to employ the bouncer in a manner that restricts, rather than promotes, scoring. But surely we want to give bowlers the opportunity to display that skill and nerve.

Why legislate an important aspect of one of the two main categories of cricket endeavour out of the sport? If a bowler bowls a bad bouncer they'll get punished, but if they have the skill, it can stop otherwise fine bowlers being used as fodder for show pony "shot-makers" who have no technique to deal with test match bowling but who feed on the bowlers being made to bowl in a predictable manner, ie. with one hand figuratively tied behind their back?

It would allow more variety in the entertainment provided by a bowler, and demand a higher level of skill from batsmen - how can that be a bad thing?
 

Matt79

Global Moderator
cant change the colors as they will interfere with the teams' kits orange- against netherlands orange kit would be invisible, yellow against the aussie yellow kits would be the same situation.
Priorities! Is it more important to have a decent product, and a proper ball that could last an innings without having to be replaced in every single innings of every match, or to make a couple of teams adopt a different colour shirt?

However they did trial orange balls and yellow balls IIRC in the 80s in Benson and Hedges series in Australia - from memory the feedback from players was pretty negative about picking them up under lights...
 

Matt79

Global Moderator
Its only asking professionals to bowl straight. I can do it (well most of the time) why can't these lot.
Well obviously most international cricketers can as well - you see only a few legside or head height wides per innings and VERY few of those are because the player couldn't control where the ball went, except for when its swinging an exceptional amount or Michael Bevan was bowling. Those wides occured because bowlers were actually trying to employ some TACTICS in their art, and fell on the wrong side of the barbed-wire fences guarding the the batsman's paradise of ODIs, clearly unwelcome when they should be aiming to bowl straight and predictably at a hittable pace so people can hit score at 8 an over without sweating... <rant>
 

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