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*Official* Ashes Build Up
- Thread starter Neil Pickup
- Start date
Harmison Rant
I know I've joined this debate a little late but for god's sake, am I alone in wondering if a county/Test bowler shouldn't be bowling 3 wides let alone 7 or however many. I mean for god's sake it was against a Chairman's XI so it was hardly a pressure situation. Seriously unimpressed as I'm a pace bowler and I've never bowled more than 3 wides before and I play competitive league cricket in the lower echlons of the Thames Valley League, Middlesex. (Used to anyway...)
He's a county bowler and getting the yips in the opening game might not amount to much for the forthcoming Ashes tour but it's unprofessional and not whats to be expected for an international cricketer.
Losing that game might be the kick in the backside we need but it just gets me wondering if touring teams like SA or Aus would turn up and play like that...ever!
So the message is: Shape Up immediately or risk getting squashed like bugs in Oz. Personally I think we have a good chance to make a decent fist of things but no more half-baked performances please.
From a seriously unimpressed England fan
in Dorset
I know I've joined this debate a little late but for god's sake, am I alone in wondering if a county/Test bowler shouldn't be bowling 3 wides let alone 7 or however many. I mean for god's sake it was against a Chairman's XI so it was hardly a pressure situation. Seriously unimpressed as I'm a pace bowler and I've never bowled more than 3 wides before and I play competitive league cricket in the lower echlons of the Thames Valley League, Middlesex. (Used to anyway...)
He's a county bowler and getting the yips in the opening game might not amount to much for the forthcoming Ashes tour but it's unprofessional and not whats to be expected for an international cricketer.
Losing that game might be the kick in the backside we need but it just gets me wondering if touring teams like SA or Aus would turn up and play like that...ever!
So the message is: Shape Up immediately or risk getting squashed like bugs in Oz. Personally I think we have a good chance to make a decent fist of things but no more half-baked performances please.
From a seriously unimpressed England fan
in Dorset
Neil Pickup
Cricket Web Moderator
Thank God for that.
Let's also ignore this WA Match as it was a warm up, and erm, we're not used to facing Window Cleaners...
126-8... *Insert Volley of Expletives Here*
At least Caddick and Hoggard can bat (!)
Anil
Hall of Fame Member
Not quite accurate. In the Windies series, he averaged 53, played some significant, fighting, back-to-the-wall innings. He sort of turned the corner during that Windies tour.Originally posted by Rik
Errrm Ganguly and Sehwag are really lower order players...Harmison bowled Ganguly and Jones bowled Sehwag...although the form Ganguly was in before the England tour I'd settle for him being classed as a lower order batsman...
As Marc if 92 - 95 mph is slow then......
Also what do you base your comment that becasue they don't have pace they wont trouble a test batsman, there are many top bowlers who aren't quick G.McGrath bowls around 88mph but has just taken his 400th test wicket, if you looked at it from a speed point of view I could only think of a handful of bowlers quicker than the English two in question.
How can you say that either, S.Jones has only bowled 38 overs (1 match) in his short Test history inculding a few overs while injured and Harmison has bowled 49 overs (1 match) in his Test history.
You must be a fine anaslyst to draw that both players are weak against top/middle order batsman, from such limited action you would have seen from them.
[Edited on 24/10/02 by Rich2001]
The Argonaut
State Vice-Captain
Stuff Craig White, pick Caddick as the all rounder or maybe he can take Crawley's middle order spot. I'll bet he's never top scored for England before.
Not much being said about the Aussie line up for the first test. I would take a good long look at Mark Waugh and Brett Lee. Waugh is either gone or will be selected on a test by test basis, one more failure and he's gone. Lee was outshone by Bichel in the last 2 tests and must be close to being dropped.
Not much being said about the Aussie line up for the first test. I would take a good long look at Mark Waugh and Brett Lee. Waugh is either gone or will be selected on a test by test basis, one more failure and he's gone. Lee was outshone by Bichel in the last 2 tests and must be close to being dropped.
masterblaster
International Captain
India certainly want a bowler like Bichel also, and Damien Fleming too. I wish Flemo would just consider living in Mumbai and playing for India
Blewy
Cricketer Of The Year
The pressure on Mark Waugh has been intensified further today with yet another ton by young NSW star batsman Michael Clarke, Clarke has now hit 100's against QLD and SA to start the season off as well as scoring runs in the Sydney local comp, and ING Cup...
There has been a heap of talk about him sneaking a spot in the side and if this form continues then it could unfold...
Also on the NSW vs SA match great news for Michael Slater as in his return match to the 1st team on his way to a brilliant pressure 100...
Go Slats!!!!
There has been a heap of talk about him sneaking a spot in the side and if this form continues then it could unfold...
Also on the NSW vs SA match great news for Michael Slater as in his return match to the 1st team on his way to a brilliant pressure 100...
Go Slats!!!!
TendulkarMark2
Banned
English side is NEVER fully fit!Originally posted by The Argonaut
It is unfortunate that the England side is not fully fit as it would be good to thrash them and not have them whinge about being decimated by injuries when they get thrashed anyway.