*Official* SA v Bangladesh Test Series

[V Reddy]

BAN 127 FOR 1 at Lunch. They are batting very very well.

 

[Tim]

damn, this is something I have to see then.

 

[Tim]

Hayward, despite bowling extremely quick at times has absolutely no control with his line & length & even Bangladesh know where to put him away.

 

[V Reddy]

But Tim its back to the same position again for BANGLADESH. But now atleast they are getting scores in excess of 200.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Well.. should have been a lot, lot better boys.

Hannan Sarkar, Habibul Bashar and Al Sahariar are starting to establish themselves, but Tushar Imran is still crap, and Alok Kapali is really impressing me.

And why doesn't Sanwar Hossain get bowled more often...

 

[Rik]

Sanwar bowling more often? He just did...and took 1-98 off 20 overs or something...but look at the figures of their bowlers...you've really got to consider weather Bangladesh deserve to be in Test cricket.

 

[Neil Pickup]

They're just getting carted on a flat pitch.

Give them time, it took numerous countries ten, fifteen, twenty years to win a test. They'll get there.

 

[Rik]

Yeah but did those teams only stop loosing due to the weather and never looked like saving a test by batting their way out of trouble or have any performances of note other than 6-81 from a guy who now averages 53 with the ball...sheesh I hope they get better...but not before England have played them why when everyone is filling their boots against Bangladesh can't England?

 

[marc71178]

New Zealand.

First match 1929/30

First win 1955/56

First win in a match that wasn't dead (they were 3-0 down in a 4 Test Series) 1961/62

 

[royGilchrist]

India?

 

[marc71178]

First Match - 1932

First Win - 1951/52

First away win 1967/68!

 

[V Reddy]

But India drawed quite a number of matches before having a win.

 

[marc71178]

NZ won their first game at the 44th attempt, having had 21 draws and 22 defeats.

India won their first game at the 25th attempt, having had 12 draws and 12 defeats.

Those look pretty similar in terms of hanging on for draws to me!

 

[V Reddy]

No it was comparing to BAN and not NZ.

 

[Neil Pickup]

In defence of Bangladesh, NZ and India's first games were in the era of 4 (and even 3?) day test matches, so it could have been much easier to batten down the hatches and go for the draw.

They'll get there. But Tushar Imran is awful. See Bangladesh's averages (Test, FC [Bowling Test, FC]):

Hannan Sarkar 28.8, 28.1
Al Sahariar 22.6, 30.1
Habibul Bashar 34.1, 34.6
Sanwar Hossain 17.1, 32.6 [53.5, 26.5]
Tushar Imran 8.7, 15.6 (Yes, 15.6 FC)
+Khaled Mashud 16.6, 27.5
Alok Kapali 33.6, 19.7 [161.5, 21.9] (Age 18)
Rafiqul Islam 3.5 (1 Test), 32.7
Tapash Baisya 13.8, 12.1 [120, 36.2] (Test 52*)
Manjural Islam 2.8, 4.0 [57.1, 42.9]
Talha Jubair 3.3, 5.0 [51.4, 48.0] (Age 16)

Plus
Mohammed Rafique 20.7, 22.5 [68.3, 17.2]
Aminul Islam 22.3, 31.1 [149, 59.4]
Javed Omar 23.7, 26.2
Mohammed Ashraful 25.8, 25.4 [223, 32.4] (Age 18)

Another thing to remember here is that a lot are still very, very young. Alok and Talha seem ones to watch.

 

[marc71178]

Originally posted by vishnureddy
No it was comparing to BAN and not NZ.

Oh right sorry, I was just posting in answer to Roy and assumed you wanted to compare NZ to India - but Neil has answered the point quite clearly.

 

[marc71178]

Originally posted by vishnureddy
No it was comparing to BAN and not NZ.

Oh right sorry, I was just posting in answer to Roy and assumed you wanted to compare NZ to India - but Neil has answered the point quite clearly.

 

[age_master]

you really gotta question the point of ther series

 

[Anil]

Originally posted by age_master
you really gotta question the point of ther series

They really seem to be out of their depth. On the other hand, they only have one way to go, ie up they have to learn it the hard way. I think Kenya had a much better case of being promoted to test nation status before Bangladesh.

 

[marc71178]

But you're forgetting Dalmiya's influence!