*Unofficial* New Zealand Black Caps Thread

[vandem]

From a distance, I would have thought there would be space for both of Boult and Henry in the squad. Not sure what the point of having a past his prime Kyle Mills in the squad was?

Balance. Mills covered the opening swing bowler role in case of injury to Southee or Boult. McClenaghan covered the 3rd seamer short-ball specialist role in case of injury to Milne.

As mentioned above, Henry was on standby playing domestic cricket.

 

[Flem274*]

our odi pace bowling depth was amazing back then. could have made the final with the reserve attack of mills, henry, mcclenaghan.

 

[NZTailender]

Good as Henry was for most part of the World Cup (that outing against West Indies excepted), he's definitely regressed since 2015-16 when he was a gun strike bowler. I guess being a permanent second in line to Southee /Boult as a new ball bowler didn't help but equally you get the feeling he hasn't adapted to the demands of international cricket. Still rate him and regard him as first choice in the one day side these days (though I'd be wary of starting him in Australia this month), but remembering the kind of fanfare he enjoyed on this forum back then it feels like a largely unfulfilled career (to say nothing of his test career).

He just needs to bowl out before the 40th. Considering since his debut they've persisted with Southee more than Henry, you gotta wonder what that does for your confidence.

 

[thierry henry]

From a distance, I would have thought there would be space for both of Boult and Henry in the squad. Not sure what the point of having a past his prime Kyle Mills in the squad was?

Mills was legit still our best ODI bowler as at the start of the 2015 World Cup. Him being relegated to a reserve spot was one of those unjustified-on-form hunch selections that worked out.

 

[thundaboult]

I thought Henry's first spell in the semi was excellent. Beat the bat multiple times and bowled a couple of maidens IIRC.

Remember that spell vividly. Me being a pace junkie remember him hitting 145 and 148kmph while being very accurate. He was billed as a like for like replacement for Adam Milne in terms of speed and he actually did a decent job of matching up with Milne's pace. Bowled with movement and bounce too...lots of hostility. Exactly the kind of spell we needed to back up boult (who was tearing into South africa for his first 4 or 5 overs). I reckon that first 15 overs between Boult. Henry is the most tense and electric passages of play I've ever seen. The crowd also added to it MONUMENTALLY. The buzz from them did not die the whole day. You could feel it pouring it out of the television into your veins.

 

[thundaboult]

Good as Henry was for most part of the World Cup (that outing against West Indies excepted), he's definitely regressed since 2015-16 when he was a gun strike bowler. I guess being a permanent second in line to Southee /Boult as a new ball bowler didn't help but equally you get the feeling he hasn't adapted to the demands of international cricket. Still rate him and regard him as first choice in the one day side these days (though I'd be wary of starting him in Australia this month), but remembering the kind of fanfare he enjoyed on this forum back then it feels like a largely unfulfilled career (to say nothing of his test career).

Sadly this is true. 15-16 Henry was at his quickest and most hostile. Remember him bowling 140-144 in opening spells on a regular basis. Now he's about 132-138 with the occasional wild one at 140-144. Wish he somehow regains that zip again because it will make him highly effective in AUS.

 

[_Ed_]

Sky's replaying the Aus-NZ game at Eden Park from the 2015 World Cup. Such nostalgia.

 

[The Hutt Rec]

Sky's replaying the Aus-NZ game at Eden Park from the 2015 World Cup. Such nostalgia.

They showed it yesterday too and I had it on. Great memories that one, the one “big” NZ-based game I didn’t go to, so invited a mate over and I think we both downed a dozen beers during it. It somehow added to the intensity and it felt like we were there by the end. Amazing match!

 

[_Ed_]

And now it's McCullum's 300.

 

[Chewie]

They were playing the 3rd chappell-hadlee game from 2007 where dizzy gillespie got us home - one of my earliest cricket memories

 

[_Ed_]

Looks like the high-scoring tie at Napier between England and NZ now. Jamie How got a big ton, IIRC?

EDIT: How did we not win from needing 26 off 25?!

 

[Chewie]

Looks like the high-scoring tie at Napier between England and NZ now. Jamie How got a big ton, IIRC?

EDIT: How did we not win from needing 26 off 25?!

Sounds like what people will say in 10 years time about the recent India T20I series

 

[The Hutt Rec]

1999 World Cup NZ vs Australia replay on Sky on Saturday, can’t wait to watch this one.

 

[_Ed_]

Fantastic! I was 13 at the time, and I'm pretty sure it was the latest I'd ever stayed up in my life to that point. I was too excited to sleep after Geoff Allott's opening burst.

 

[The Hutt Rec]

Allott with the early blow ... and the classic Lawry-Grieg commentary opening partnership too, nice,

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Even though we lost to Australia in the 96 and 2003 World Cups (2 games we should've won) it would be nice to see the Harris-Germon partnership and Bond bowling spell again.

 

[The Hutt Rec]

Doesn't seem to be a speed gun in this game which is disappointing. I'm sure I remember Larsen getting into the 140s in this tournament haha.

 

[The Hutt Rec]

The current Blackcaps need to get Allott, Larsen, Twose and Cairns in to instruct them on how to not totally mentally disintegrate when playing Australia.

 

[Jezroy]

The current Blackcaps need to get Allott, Larsen, Twose and Cairns in to instruct them on how to not totally mentally disintegrate when playing Australia.

Harris enjoyed them in ODIs also from memory. And Danny Veets. Bondy.

 

[_Ed_]

I recorded that '99 game yesterday and am watching it now. Was Astle's nickname really 'Dirtbag'? That seems to be what Parore is calling him.