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    Quote Originally Posted by Dasa
    There's one obvious reason you guys are missing as to why MacGill is better than Kumble.


    MacGill is Australian.
    And the fact that his statistics are superior to Kumble's in arguably the most important categories, you single minded twerp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C_C
    Never said it was gospel. However, an opinion based on facts is merely more factually correct opinion!
    but still how is it like comparing steve waugh to lara and tendulkar... explain it. I mean I'm sure there must be logic there that I'm not seeing...
    In my opinion steve waugh was streets away from lara...does that mean that kumble is streets away from warne and murali.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slats4ever
    What are you talking about Jon, of course McGrath is better than not only Hayden, but Stephen Fleming as well. I mean, look at these awesome figures on a batting paradise in Brisbance. 61. Compare that to the "great" batsman Fleming and Hayden, who had a combined total of 8 between them.
    So you seriously think that McGill is a better bowler than Kumble....riiiiiight!

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    make an argument otherwise. statistically he is more sound than kumble.... so where do you find an argument other than saying "riiiiight"?

    I mean heck McGill just took 9/82 against the best batsman in the world in the super series... It's hard to say that a player like that can't be classed at least in the same category as Kumble.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slats4ever
    make an argument otherwise. statistically he is more sound than kumble.... so where do you find an argument other than saying "riiiiight"?

    I mean heck McGill just took 9/82 against the best batsman in the world in the super series... It's hard to say that a player like that can't be classed at least in the same category as Kumble.

    1. McGill's record is worse than Kumble, despite Kumble having played far more than McGill has.

    2. McGill's record is worse than Kumble, despite McGill having a far better bowling attack to back him up

    3. Against the best teams in spin, McGill is woeful against them - Kumble is significantly better.

    4. McGill lacks a) variety and b) accuracy of Kumble and the only thing he has is big turn to pick off batsmen- which is why he has rarely suceeded against good batsmen against spin.

    Seems reasons enough for me but then again, maybe it isnt to some who cannot see past national colors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slats4ever
    What are you talking about Jon, of course McGrath is better than not only Hayden, but Stephen Fleming as well. I mean, look at these awesome figures on a batting paradise in Brisbance. 61. Compare that to the "great" batsman Fleming and Hayden, who had a combined total of 8 between them.
    Attempted example which fails due to it being a batting example. But hell, if you think one match isn't enough, let's look at the whole series between India and Australia. 4 whole test matches, not just one. MacGill had 14 wickets at a shocking average of 50.78, yet Kumble, who I repeat "is useless outside of India", took 24 wickets at 29.58.

    Explain to my why MacGill got belted all around the park that game (and whole series Slats), why could he only get one wicket, whereas Kumble could get 12 in conditions outside of India.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slats4ever
    make an argument otherwise. statistically he is more sound than kumble.... so where do you find an argument other than saying "riiiiight"?

    I mean heck McGill just took 9/82 against the best batsman in the world in the super series... It's hard to say that a player like that can't be classed at least in the same category as Kumble.
    Statistically, Kallis is a better allrounder than Sobers and Hayden is a better batsman than Viv Richards and Steve Waugh. That doesn't make it so does it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slats4ever
    I mean heck McGill just took 9/82 against the best batsman in the world in the super series... It's hard to say that a player like that can't be classed at least in the same category as Kumble.
    In the same category as Kumble? You're claiming he's better than Murali!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slats4ever
    make an argument otherwise. statistically he is more sound than kumble.... so where do you find an argument other than saying "riiiiight"?

    I mean heck McGill just took 9/82 against the best batsman in the world in the super series... It's hard to say that a player like that can't be classed at least in the same category as Kumble.
    MacGill only bowls in tandem with Warne, except in rare situations (like when Warne is injured/banned). And it doesnt take an Einstein to work out that Australia need to play two spinners only when the wickets gonna take turn.
    MacGill gets a shedload of wickets only when Warne plays because he needs someone to tie up the other end for him.What are his figures when Warne isnt playing ? Without the support from a great spinner from the other end, he isnt worth being classed alongwith Kumble, and thats even without considering the wide gulf in experience (which be like saying that Sehwag right now is in the same class as Steve Waugh. Care to dispute that with your stats-based approach ? )

    Now, you make an argument, consistent with your line of thought, why MacGill should necessarily be a better bowler than Kaneria.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanz
    He said so on the basis Current performances and he is not far off.
    That's exactly right . Thanks for that , Mate !!

    On current performances over the World Series/Windies /SLv India series etc .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slats4ever
    And the fact that his statistics are superior to Kumble's in arguably the most important categories, you single minded twerp.
    Let's not get into name calling please.

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    Congrats to Kumble - certainly the stats SJS highlighted the other day told the story of a quite underrated player. I'm also of the opinion that he should have been playing in the Super Series test, and I'm convinced that the desire to have a NZ player represented somehow was the sole reason Vettori was given preference.

    Also, I think people forget that the last time India were out here in '03/04, Kumble was by a fair margin the pick of the bowlers (of either side).
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    and I may humbly remind certain fans here that a certain SCG MacGill played that series as well, and said that "it is not like they know what I am bowling, it is like they don't care what I am bowling"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani
    and I may humbly remind certain fans here that a certain SCG MacGill played that series as well, and said that "it is not like they know what I am bowling, it is like they don't care what I am bowling"...
    LOL that was a great quote! I don't reckon Laxman rated MacGill at all that series. He made him his female dog, other than a few dismissals on boxing day which we'll dismiss as 'freak occurences'.

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