Australia's Post Ashes Blueprint

[SquidAU]

i used to think so but with Hogg's emergence n now White dont think he should play ODI's...

Probably not anymore...but he last played one in 2000? Should have been given more of an opportunity....

Hopefully, White will do well. Even though he is a mexican!

[aussie]

well if he does well in the super-series it will give the selectors a nice headache of who to pick in ODI has the main spinner between himself & the effervessent Hogg

[SquidAU]

well if he does well in the super-series it will give the selectors a nice headache of who to pick in ODI has the main spinner between himself & the effervessent Hogg

If White does well, I'd imagine they will stick with him and "retire" the schwepervessance of Hogg.

[aussie]

If White does well, I'd imagine they will stick with him and "retire" the schwepervessance of Hogg.

na i think it would be extremely unfair ig Hogg is dropped his leg-spin has proved tp be extremely effective for Australia and he's so fit for his age. For me once his leg-spin remains effective in ODI's he should play in the WC.

[SquidAU]

na i think it would be extremely unfair ig Hogg is dropped his leg-spin has proved tp be extremely effective for Australia and he's so fit for his age. For me once his leg-spin remains effective in ODI's he should play in the WC.

But why when the Aussie team and selectors should be looking to youth? That is the path they said they are taking so I would doubt if Hogg would play again, TBH.

[howardj]

until Dizzy finds form or Johnson does something huge Macgill should play every test this season.

I agree with that. The idea that you need a raging turner before you can play two spinners, has always been dubious - especially when that second spinner has such a good record, and where your third paceman is substandard. Having said that, I wouldnt mind White or Cullen getting a game, instead of MacGill - especially against the hapless Windies, who we are likely to murder anyway.

[SquidAU]

Having said that, I wouldnt mind White or Cullen getting a game, instead of MacGill - especially against the hapless Windies, who we are likely to murder anyway.

And now that you've said that, the Windies will take a test off of us, thus making the Aussies the laughing stock of the nation!

[aussie]

I agree with that. The idea that you need a raging turner before you can play two spinners, has always been dubious - especially when that second spinner has such a good record, and where your third paceman is substandard. Having said that, I wouldnt mind White or Cullen getting a game, instead of MacGill - especially against the hapless Windies, who we are likely to murder anyway.

na those 2 have to wait it would be a travesty if they play in front of him now regardless of the opponent...

[aussie]

But why when the Aussie team and selectors should be looking to youth? That is the path they said they are taking so I would doubt if Hogg would play again, TBH.

yea they may be looking to youth but they shouldn't drop him until he starts failing

[shaka]

interesting : http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0...-23212,00.html

[SquidAU]

yea they may be looking to youth but they shouldn't drop him until he starts failing

Or injuries get the better of him.....

[Mister Wright]

na i think it would be extremely unfair ig Hogg is dropped his leg-spin has proved tp be extremely effective for Australia and he's so fit for his age. For me once his leg-spin remains effective in ODI's he should play in the WC.

It's going to be very hard for White to be a worse bowler than Hogg. He is a better batsman, so it's better to go with White.

[Tom Halsey]

It's going to be very hard for White to be a worse bowler than Hogg. He is a better batsman, so it's better to go with White.

I think that's harsh. Hogg, while not being ground-breaking, has been reasonably effective for a while now (although I haven't checked stats).

[Tom Halsey]

While we're on the subject of spinners for ODIs, here's my take:

Hogg - been reasonably effective when I've seen him, I see no reason to change.
MacGill - too innaccurate for ODIs, he's only played a handful for this reason I think.
White - never seen him, but going on a few reports, he's reasonably accurate (even if he doesn't turn it a huge amount). May give him a go in a few ODIs.

[Mister Wright]

While we're on the subject of spinners for ODIs, here's my take:

Hogg - been reasonably effective when I've seen him, I see no reason to change.
MacGill - too innaccurate for ODIs, he's only played a handful for this reason I think.
White - never seen him, but going on a few reports, he's reasonably accurate (even if he doesn't turn it a huge amount). May give him a go in a few ODIs.

You're incorrect on MacGill. He has been the best ING Cup bowler in Austrlia for several years now. He has a very good record for the 3 ODIs he has played and should have played more.