Perfectly justified response by ponting, in no way sourgrapes. Why should he get disiplined? did you even watch the game?C_C said:Real sour grapes from Ponting from what i hear ....yelled at Dar after he got out and mouthed off the english pavillion before entering the hutch...
King_Ponting said:Perfectly justified response by ponting, in no way sourgrapes. Why should he get disiplined? did you even watch the game?
No he spoke to the umpire and shouted something at, for all we know, anyone. Maybe even the crowd..... He shouldnt get disiplined at all, and if he does there is something wrong with cricketC_C said:So yelling at the umpire and mouthing off the pavillion is a perfectly justified response ?
And no, i didnt watch it, which is why i said "from what i hear"....do feel free to correct me if my facts are in error.
King_Ponting said:No he spoke to the umpire and shouted something at, for all we know, anyone. Maybe even the crowd..... He shouldnt get disiplined at all, and if he does there is something wrong with cricket
No,no not another racism argument....C_C said:So shouting something at someone ( player/umpire/fans/whatever) is not deemed fine-worthy ?
I got a question for you : Since when is it literally 'one rule for the aussies, another for the rest' ?
Mate, it obviously depends on the circumstances. How often do you see a cricketer on the boundary having words with abusive fans? How much chatting goes on between players on the field, surrounding dismissals and so on? Plenty of things get said, and some things are picked up on and others are not. If Ponting did show dissent to Dar he will obviously be disciplined for it, but if he went over there and said "why is that guy allowed on the field while their fast bowlers take short rests off the field for the whole day when he is a better fielder?" then obviously he won't.C_C said:So shouting something at someone ( player/umpire/fans/whatever) is not deemed fine-worthy ?
I got a question for you : Since when is it literally 'one rule for the aussies, another for the rest' ?
Where did racism enter the picture ?King_Ponting said:No,no not another racism argument....
Okay some say he 'spoke' with Dar, some say he 'shouted' at Dar. Fine, that is a judgement call.FaaipDeOiad said:Mate, it obviously depends on the circumstances. How often do you see a cricketer on the boundary having words with abusive fans? How much chatting goes on between players on the field, surrounding dismissals and so on? Plenty of things get said, and some things are picked up on and others are not. If Ponting did show dissent to Dar he will obviously be disciplined for it, but if he went over there and said "why is that guy allowed on the field while their fast bowlers take short rests off the field for the whole day when he is a better fielder?" then obviously he won't.
Becuase my response would have been no its the same rules for everyone, and thus u would have said, like u have stated so many other times, that that isnt the case, when it is. So dont pull this "where did rascism enter the picture" crap.C_C said:Where did racism enter the picture ?
You'd do well to realise that 'one rule for the rest, another for the aussies' cannot be deemed racist, since Aussies arnt the ONLY team of a particular racial composition in cricket.
King_Ponting said:Becuase my response would have been no its the same rules for everyone, and thus u would have said, like u have stated so many other times, that that isnt the case, when it is. So dont pull this "where did rascism enter the picture" crap.
Under what sub section of the code of conduct?C_C said:Okay some say he 'spoke' with Dar, some say he 'shouted' at Dar. Fine, that is a judgement call.
But shouting towards the pavillion is a punishable offence under ICC code of conduct- no circumstances are exempted.
And players do get fined for exchanging words with the fans in a heated manner. Obviously the ICC disciplinary actions arnt consistent ( ie, they let too many outbursts slip) and hence there is a big debate regarding its implimentation.
King_Ponting said:Under what sub section of the code of conduct?
Stop it now. That's quite a pathetic flame, not worthy of your usually high standardC_C said:So shouting something at someone ( player/umpire/fans/whatever) is not deemed fine-worthy ?
I got a question for you : Since when is it literally 'one rule for the aussies, another for the rest' ?
Ofcourse one should.King_Ponting said:the one must ask the question if vaughan should also get fined according to sub section one and two of the Code of conduct