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Did England deserve the title of second best in the world.
- Thread starter Shane Warne
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Shane Warne
Banned
India will dominate it.They will control every test match and win the series. Harbajan will run through them like a hot knife through butter.Jono said:
The best England can hope for is surving and playing for bad light so they draw a game or two if they are very lucky like they did last time in Sri Lanka.
I predict 3-0 India though.
Langeveldt
Soutie
bust his *** if he uses that kind of filth in OTPY said:The ***ism is oozing from that comment.
tooextracool
International Coach
you mean like the last time we set foot in india?Shane Warne said:
an attack sporting the likes of dawson and ormond.
Shane Warne
Banned
Dawson's and Ormonds figures will be better than Harmisons will be over there.tooextracool said:
Mark my words.
C_C
International Captain
The only bowler Aussies missed against IND was McGrath.......Warne is irrelevant against India......he usually gets treated like a club bowler by indian batsmen.
Overall, its close between IND and ENG but if ENG gets thwacked pretty bad against OZ this series and next year in IND, while they both keep their trends ( ie, ENG thwacking the minnows/mediocre teams and IND failing to finish out the minnows while doing excellently against strong teams), IND would pull clear.
Overall, its close between IND and ENG but if ENG gets thwacked pretty bad against OZ this series and next year in IND, while they both keep their trends ( ie, ENG thwacking the minnows/mediocre teams and IND failing to finish out the minnows while doing excellently against strong teams), IND would pull clear.
Shane Warne
Banned
You may wish to check out Warnes bowling stats in the last series.C_C said:
Slats4ever
International Vice-Captain
Back on the topic of the thread. India at home are an interesting proposition and have sound claims for being the second best in the world. However they aren't consistantly good enough away from home to compare to England. Don't forget England have only lost about 1 or 2 games in their last 14 test matches or something crazy like that.
England in my opinion are a champion side and will bounce back from the loss. No longer are they afraid of the world number 1 Australian's, they know they can win. India on the other hand I think are still mentally a bit scared.
England in my opinion are a champion side and will bounce back from the loss. No longer are they afraid of the world number 1 Australian's, they know they can win. India on the other hand I think are still mentally a bit scared.
C_C
International Captain
I fail to see your logic.Slats4ever said:
The 'mentally scared' side has a 7-8 record in the last 10 years and the english have a far worse record.
I think what you say applies to IND in the 90s and early 2000 or so...they still are no great shakes overseas but of the last few seasons, IND has been considerably better overseas while losing the air of 'invincibility' at home.
England has had a very good run but the bulk of it is against minnows....India struggles against minnows far more than ENG- granted. But against top nations, IND does better...i think its more about losing focus for IND than 'scared'...you cant be 'scared' and sport a 7-8 record against the aussies.
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
nonsense mate, in 2001 we carried a much worst team than the one we have presently & after being hammerd in the 1st test played much better than india in the remaining two test.Has was the case againts the WI & SA last year, this english team has a darn good chance of winning in india....Shane Warne said:
FaaipDeOiad
Hall of Fame Member
A few of the English batsmen are quite competent against spin, but the likes of Flintoff and Bell I'd be really worried about. Clearly, Pietersen, Vaughan and Trescothick can play spin perfectly well. It will be a very interesting series anyway.
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
with the exception of Bell & Flintoff the wrest of the english batting line-up is quite capable againts spin, i definately think they have a chance Gilo is proven to be a pretty good bowler on turning tracks & the for me the pace of Harmison & Freddie could be crucial to englands chances over their since all of the indian batsmen with the exception of the little master have problems coping with bowlers of high pace.C_C said:
C_C
International Captain
They are ALL unproven on Indian pitches- which takes spin differently than English or aussie pitches....Flintoff averages only 15 with the bat in Asia.......thats half his career average....FaaipDeOiad said:
This english lineup is unproven in IND and their batting against spin doesnt inspire confidence really- outside or inside the subcontinent.
C_C
International Captain
aussie said:
Vaughan has played just two matches in IND and averages 53....he has played just 4 matches in SL and averages 31 in SL....that isnt a record of competency...more like a dodgy and unproven record in the subcontinent.
Same case with Tresco- 1 series and averages 48 in IND and 2 series where he averages 34 in SL.
That is far from competent in the subcontinent, really and far too little experience in IND.
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
come on mate does it matter how mcuh times u have played their at least when they go back their they know what to expect. Maybe Vaughan doesn't have a superb average in the sub-continent but if you say his superb 105 in Kandy that would have convinced you that Vaughan has what it takes to make big runs againts spinners in the sub-continent.C_C said: