luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
Sssssssssshhhhhhhhh.
You'll wake him.....
You'll wake him.....
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*Official* 4th Test - England v India - Keep all Discussion Here Please!
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Neil Pickup
Cricket Web Moderator
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If Ajit can do it, then Corky can... :cheesy:
If Ajit can do it, then Corky can... :cheesy:
luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
He's certainly never scored a ton at test level.
He's had a fifty and a tenfer twice this season in championship games, but as we all know, that's small potatoes.
I would far rather he was playing for Derbyshire in the current game against Gloucestershire (or Irani had not been released to play for Essex against Middlesex, preferably both) rather than 12th man for England because I am a selfish git.
I'm actually not interested in much cricket stuff today because of the crisis affecting Derby County Football Club.
(And India think they've got problems over some contracts affecting a group of players and some grotty ODI tournament in Sri Lanka - at least next week there will still be an India - there may not be a DCFC).
He's had a fifty and a tenfer twice this season in championship games, but as we all know, that's small potatoes.
I would far rather he was playing for Derbyshire in the current game against Gloucestershire (or Irani had not been released to play for Essex against Middlesex, preferably both) rather than 12th man for England because I am a selfish git.
I'm actually not interested in much cricket stuff today because of the crisis affecting Derby County Football Club.
(And India think they've got problems over some contracts affecting a group of players and some grotty ODI tournament in Sri Lanka - at least next week there will still be an India - there may not be a DCFC).
I am too lazy to go check cork's first class stats...but can you guys tell me his averages and stuff ?
Well letting go irani is not a bad thing for england and i reckon considering the choices cork is not bad.
But why not dawson..he did bowl well in india. And i really hope for englands sake they dont drop harmisson..atleast he has pace.
I am really hoping india put an end to this 16 yr old drought..
Well letting go irani is not a bad thing for england and i reckon considering the choices cork is not bad.
But why not dawson..he did bowl well in india. And i really hope for englands sake they dont drop harmisson..atleast he has pace.
I am really hoping india put an end to this 16 yr old drought..
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
I hope I'm wrong, but Cork and Tudor are both good number 9 batsmen, not number 8s, and definitely not number 7s!
I'd have kept Irani at 7 and 4th seamer as he's in form, and a far better batsman than any of the others.
Also, could then have left out Tudor AND Caddick.
Perhaps they will play 6 batsmen plus Stewart.
Oh, and Dawson hasn't had a great lot of bowling under Boof this year.
I'd have kept Irani at 7 and 4th seamer as he's in form, and a far better batsman than any of the others.
Also, could then have left out Tudor AND Caddick.
Perhaps they will play 6 batsmen plus Stewart.
Oh, and Dawson hasn't had a great lot of bowling under Boof this year.
luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
Marcus Trescothick has won his battle to be fit for the deciding Test against India at The Oval.
The Somerset left-hander, is fit again after recovering from a broken thumb, and is one of two changes to England's line-up.
Derbyshire captain Dominic Cork is England's other change to the side beaten at Headingley, replacing in the injured Andrew Flintoff.
India have made only one change, recalling wicketkeeper Ajay Ratra as a replacement for the injured Parthiv Patel
Source : Ananova
The Somerset left-hander, is fit again after recovering from a broken thumb, and is one of two changes to England's line-up.
Derbyshire captain Dominic Cork is England's other change to the side beaten at Headingley, replacing in the injured Andrew Flintoff.
India have made only one change, recalling wicketkeeper Ajay Ratra as a replacement for the injured Parthiv Patel
Source : Ananova
right now..tis standard stff...indian pie throwers try to bounce out trescothick.
I cant understand this..here is a batsman coming of a long lay off..instead of pitching it up and making him play at every ball...the two pace men decide to bowl short and wide at every instance..gawddd
India have already lost the momentum and initiative..and looking at the way marcus is playing..well..i can just hope now..
I cant understand this..here is a batsman coming of a long lay off..instead of pitching it up and making him play at every ball...the two pace men decide to bowl short and wide at every instance..gawddd
India have already lost the momentum and initiative..and looking at the way marcus is playing..well..i can just hope now..
lord_of_darkness
Cricket Web XI Moderator
177/1
(50.0 ov)
R.R 3.54
Honestly Speaking Day 1 Goes to England Completely, i Dont know what India is trying to achieve ? Are they trying to Get their goal of winning a test match in 12 or 14 or whatever Years ? NO
Are they trying to prove they are a good test cricketting nation ? Umm No Not really Not when it comes to securing wins
Can Agarkar Bowl ? Even my cat knows the answer to this.... Agarkar 9 overs 45 or more runs , this guy cant bowl in test for ... They should have Given Yohannan a chance even thought he didnt look good in the warmups
So far i see a draw or a win to england , unless India can pull something out ... Quickly
(50.0 ov)
R.R 3.54
Honestly Speaking Day 1 Goes to England Completely, i Dont know what India is trying to achieve ? Are they trying to Get their goal of winning a test match in 12 or 14 or whatever Years ? NO
Are they trying to prove they are a good test cricketting nation ? Umm No Not really Not when it comes to securing wins
Can Agarkar Bowl ? Even my cat knows the answer to this.... Agarkar 9 overs 45 or more runs , this guy cant bowl in test for ... They should have Given Yohannan a chance even thought he didnt look good in the warmups
So far i see a draw or a win to england , unless India can pull something out ... Quickly
lord_of_darkness
Cricket Web XI Moderator
Yea but the previous test match was played on a batsmens paradise too , but there the whole team worked well in the bowling dept to do really well in bowling England out twice , so why cant it happen here ?
aussie_beater
State Vice-Captain
the previous test was not played on a batsman's paradise....actually far from it.It was a seaming wicket with overcast conditions and had uneven bounce as well for Kumble to have a go.
I don't know about the wicket at the oval, but the honours of day one surely goes to England and by the end of the day it will be clear as to how big a hole India has dug for itself.Then again the onus would be on the batsman to dig in and save the day, unless the Indian bowlers come up with something miraculous.
I don't know about the wicket at the oval, but the honours of day one surely goes to England and by the end of the day it will be clear as to how big a hole India has dug for itself.Then again the onus would be on the batsman to dig in and save the day, unless the Indian bowlers come up with something miraculous.
Anil
Hall of Fame Member
No miracles to be expected from this attack. England looks like heading for atleast a 500+ score, which basically reduces the options of the outcome to a draw or an English win.
Let's see what the batsmen can do to get away with a draw. This means the overseas drought for india continues.
Let's see what the batsmen can do to get away with a draw. This means the overseas drought for india continues.
First off congrats to england...professional show with a touch of flair. You guys can gloat over it...welldone
After Srikkanth , slater i was smitten with trescothick. Heproved again that his techinque is see ball hit ball...good show
vaughan good show. But i am also wondering if he is the "selected one" Usually in every tour the indian team makes a nobody a super star. But vaughan has performed like flower..
Agarkar: he is a prime example of why condoms should be used...well..yeah thats overboard criticism. But he has played all the tests..but not a single decent performance...just why he still plays is not clear to me.
The fact that bangar did well..makes it even worser.
Ganguly's captaincy sucked today..
Hope we come back with a draw...
After Srikkanth , slater i was smitten with trescothick. Heproved again that his techinque is see ball hit ball...good show
vaughan good show. But i am also wondering if he is the "selected one" Usually in every tour the indian team makes a nobody a super star. But vaughan has performed like flower..
Agarkar: he is a prime example of why condoms should be used...well..yeah thats overboard criticism. But he has played all the tests..but not a single decent performance...just why he still plays is not clear to me.
The fact that bangar did well..makes it even worser.
Ganguly's captaincy sucked today..
Hope we come back with a draw...
luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
No gloating from me (those of you who know me know what I think about gloaters anyway) - the job's not a quarter done yet.
In an earlier match report (Trent Bridge), I suggested that his (Michael Vaughan's) 197 must rank as the finest innings he has ever played. Well, he surpassed it today if not in size (yet?) but in style and sheer class. I am not going to draw comparisons with any other player (pointless) but I will say this - he is still getting better.
I hope that he gets through the first hour tomorrow - we could witness something special.
However.....
I suggest that everyone reads the last line of 'Gone With the Wind.'
In an earlier match report (Trent Bridge), I suggested that his (Michael Vaughan's) 197 must rank as the finest innings he has ever played. Well, he surpassed it today if not in size (yet?) but in style and sheer class. I am not going to draw comparisons with any other player (pointless) but I will say this - he is still getting better.
I hope that he gets through the first hour tomorrow - we could witness something special.
However.....
I suggest that everyone reads the last line of 'Gone With the Wind.'
Anil
Hall of Fame Member
Vaughan seems to be a great prospect for England. Let's wait till the Ashes to make a final statement though, because as you said, in the past, many mediocre players have used the even more mediocre Indian bowlers to fatten up their averages. If he tackles the Aussies well, he is the genuine article and if that is the case, England have a great opening pair in Tresc and Vaughan.