English bowling strategies for Australian batsmen

vvk · 13-04-2005, 10:25 AM

I think when teams have been successful against the Australian's, there have been clear strategies laid out in consideration with the perceived weaknesses of each batsmen. New Zealand did it 5 years ago, and the Australian's themselves employ varying tactics extremely successfully against oppposition teams (the way they bowled to Dravid in the last series was phenomenal).

I think perhaps we can come up with some ideas for the England bowlers (they're gonna need it).

steds · 13-04-2005, 10:31 AM

try and get the ball 22 yards down the pitch.

Swervy · 13-04-2005, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by vvk

I think when teams have been successful against the Australian's, there have been clear strategies laid out in consideration with the perceived weaknesses of each batsmen. New Zealand did it 5 years ago, and the Australian's themselves employ varying tactics extremely successfully against oppposition teams (the way they bowled to Dravid in the last series was phenomenal).

I think perhaps we can come up with some ideas for the England bowlers (they're gonna need it).

I am pretty sure the English set up know the weaknesses and strengths already of the Australians

Arjun · 13-04-2005, 11:26 AM

Short ones against Hayden are not the right thing- the giant will be pulling that stuff, particularly if there's no pace. The Aussies can be unsettled with swing.

twctopcat · 13-04-2005, 05:08 PM

If it's short and well aimed it might be, he sometimes goes for ones that are not pullable in order to dominate an attack. *waits for barrage of abuse*

C_C · 13-04-2005, 05:28 PM

This should be the strategy:

1. hollow out the ball and insert a few tiny lead ballast balls. inside a small pouch.

2. insert a lil motor and battery

3. paint the receiver wire white and blend it into the seam

4. put a lil button the size of a dime on your wrist that has its antanne mixed into the bodyhair (need a really wolly player for this...ENG bowlers should go get some baldness preventing cream and apply it 24/7 to their wrists/forearms)

5. bowl the ball and then press-release like hell to contol the ballast

6. If motor breaks down due to over-pressing the button, get giles to bowl a long hop after taunting ponting that he cant hit sixes. replace lost ball with another similarly rigged.

7. hope the ump doesnt find out.

twctopcat · 13-04-2005, 05:43 PM

You could be on to something there mate, lets hope big duncan catches on....

tooextracool · 13-04-2005, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vvk

I think when teams have been successful against the Australian's, there have been clear strategies laid out in consideration with the perceived weaknesses of each batsmen. New Zealand did it 5 years ago, and the Australian's themselves employ varying tactics extremely successfully against oppposition teams (the way they bowled to Dravid in the last series was phenomenal).

I think perhaps we can come up with some ideas for the England bowlers (they're gonna need it).

well if they dont have a plan against every australian batsman already, they really dont deserve to be playing in the ashes series itself.

Zinzan · 13-04-2005, 06:31 PM

The best tactic against Ponting and most of the Aussie batsmen is to deny them runs. I know it sounds simple, but particularly against Ponting who loves to feel bat on ball, its crucial England bowlers to frustrate.

Chris Martin did it to an extent against Ponting in the recent test series. Martin kept bowling wide of the off stump, giving Ponting nothing even marginally straight to work on the leg-side or to pull . Eventually Ponting played at a wide one and edged it.

I remember Slater who was commentating at the time before Ponting was out was suggesting Martin was wasting the new ball bowling that wide, although it was clear to see Ponting was getting frustrated. When Ponting was out, Slater then did a full 360 and said it was a great tactic by Martin.

With the way the Aussies like to score at around 4 an over in test cricket, bowling dot balls really increases the chance of getting wickets. It may sound negative but it can work.

cameeel · 13-04-2005, 07:50 PM

Good swing bowling, there isnt a lot of it going around at the moment

Eclipse · 13-04-2005, 11:21 PM

One thing i've always noticed when England play us is they overdo the short stuff WAY to much...

it's like they want to feed guys like Ricky Ponting and Adam Gilchrist with balls for there favorite shot. Maybe they just appreciate good pull/hook shots or something lol..

Eclipse · 13-04-2005, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cameeel

Good swing bowling, there isnt a lot of it going around at the moment

yep true, everyone struggles with good swing bowling.. never seen anyone who doesn't

aussie · 13-04-2005, 11:39 PM

i dont hink u lads should worry too much about that, i would expect Michael Vaughan & Fletcher to already have clear cut trategies for all the aussie batsmen, if they dont they dont they are better off telling ponting keep the ashes until 2006

shaka · 13-04-2005, 11:59 PM

what they could do is watch where Vettori was bowling and then try get Giles to copy that

aussie · 14-04-2005, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by shaka

what they could do is watch where Vettori was bowling and then try get Giles to copy that

pretty sure they've got that scenario plus numerous others covered mate

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13-04-2005, 10:31 AM	#2 (permalink)
steds Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Riding public transport back and forth Posts: 16,914	try and get the ball 22 yards down the pitch.

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C_C International Captain Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: World Posts: 6,990	This should be the strategy: 1. hollow out the ball and insert a few tiny lead ballast balls. inside a small pouch. 2. insert a lil motor and battery 3. paint the receiver wire white and blend it into the seam 4. put a lil button the size of a dime on your wrist that has its antanne mixed into the bodyhair (need a really wolly player for this...ENG bowlers should go get some baldness preventing cream and apply it 24/7 to their wrists/forearms) 5. bowl the ball and then press-release like hell to contol the ballast 6. If motor breaks down due to over-pressing the button, get giles to bowl a long hop after taunting ponting that he cant hit sixes. replace lost ball with another similarly rigged. 7. hope the ump doesnt find out.

13-04-2005, 05:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
twctopcat International Regular Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: winchester, england Posts: 3,477	You could be on to something there mate, lets hope big duncan catches on....

13-04-2005, 06:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
Zinzan Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: cover point Posts: 9,734	The best tactic against Ponting and most of the Aussie batsmen is to deny them runs. I know it sounds simple, but particularly against Ponting who loves to feel bat on ball, its crucial England bowlers to frustrate. Chris Martin did it to an extent against Ponting in the recent test series. Martin kept bowling wide of the off stump, giving Ponting nothing even marginally straight to work on the leg-side or to pull . Eventually Ponting played at a wide one and edged it. I remember Slater who was commentating at the time before Ponting was out was suggesting Martin was wasting the new ball bowling that wide, although it was clear to see Ponting was getting frustrated. When Ponting was out, Slater then did a full 360 and said it was a great tactic by Martin. With the way the Aussies like to score at around 4 an over in test cricket, bowling dot balls really increases the chance of getting wickets. It may sound negative but it can work.

13-04-2005, 11:21 PM	#11 (permalink)
Eclipse International Debutant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nere a Spoon Posts: 2,873	One thing i've always noticed when England play us is they overdo the short stuff WAY to much... it's like they want to feed guys like Ricky Ponting and Adam Gilchrist with balls for there favorite shot. Maybe they just appreciate good pull/hook shots or something lol..

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aussie Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cricket Posts: 16,845	i dont hink u lads should worry too much about that, i would expect Michael Vaughan & Fletcher to already have clear cut trategies for all the aussie batsmen, if they dont they dont they are better off telling ponting keep the ashes until 2006

13-04-2005, 11:59 PM	#14 (permalink)
shaka International Regular Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: auckland NZ Posts: 3,045	what they could do is watch where Vettori was bowling and then try get Giles to copy that

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