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    Quote Originally Posted by deeps
    just read the most wins ever is 10 tests, and that's by brett lee.....i was pretty sure gilly won his first 14 or 15 odd testS!
    Australia did win Gilly's first 15 tests...
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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani
    Another interesting co-incidence is that Dinesh Kaarthick has not played in a losing Indian team as yet. And a couple of those matches were ones that many never thought India could win.
    He's only played 3 games - the Test I don't think India were expected to win, but nobody in their right mind would've said they ever thought India could win that game when you take into account the conditions.

    He's also played 2 ODIs - one against England and one against Kenya - neither of those games are one's of which you could say you'd never think they could win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sudeep
    Australia did win Gilly's first 15 tests...
    The most noticeable thing is that they lost Gilly's 16th Test, where he made a king pair, and they lost his 17th Test, where he made 1 and 1.

    That just goes to show how valuable a player he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    He's only played 3 games - the Test I don't think India were expected to win, but nobody in their right mind would've said they ever thought India could win that game when you take into account the conditions.

    He's also played 2 ODIs - one against England and one against Kenya - neither of those games are one's of which you could say you'd never think they could win.

    I did not say that India were not expected to win those matches before the match started. But the position that India found themselves in both that ODI against England and at Mumbai, not many would have given India a chance. And coming back to the point about the Mumbai pitch, sure, it was not a good wicket, but that should not hide the fact that the Aussie top order played poor shots to get out. That is why they lost, not because of the pitch. Ricky Ponting and Mark Waugh have shown us forever that they like to make excuses. I think Ian Healy's comments carry more weight. He said that however bad the wicket maybe, the best batting line up in the world is expected to score more than 107 and it was entirely their own fault that they could not do it. Plus some credit to the Indian bowlers for keeping it tight and inducing them to those strokes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani
    I did not say that India were not expected to win those matches before the match started. But the position that India found themselves in both that ODI against England and at Mumbai, not many would have given India a chance. And coming back to the point about the Mumbai pitch, sure, it was not a good wicket, but that should not hide the fact that the Aussie top order played poor shots to get out. That is why they lost, not because of the pitch. Ricky Ponting and Mark Waugh have shown us forever that they like to make excuses. I think Ian Healy's comments carry more weight. He said that however bad the wicket maybe, the best batting line up in the world is expected to score more than 107 and it was entirely their own fault that they could not do it. Plus some credit to the Indian bowlers for keeping it tight and inducing them to those strokes.
    Absolutely correct.

    There is no denying that Australia were BY FAR the better side in the series and India were throughly outplayed in the matches they lost and never looked anywhere near a side that could claim to be the second best in the world.

    Having said that, Australia still showed terrible attitude and skills in tackling a turning wicket. They could have won the fourth test if they hadn't convinced themselves that it was impossible to bat on it !

    This is no test wicket for the first day or even the second day of a test, but you will get this sort of a wicket sometimes during a match (for the fourth innings surely) and you need to have some idea how to handle it !

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    I am surprised how restrained the admiration for Kaarthicks keeping has been in this test. He was quite fantastic on a very difficult wicket.

    Here are the views on his performance by someone who should know a bit about keeping.

    No one could overlook the super cool performance of Dinesh Karthick.... To wicket-keep so crisply in such tough conditions to the hardest of spinners was spectacular by Karthick.

    It was sparkling and fresh to see some levity behind the stumps and he realy wanted every ball. He had his helmeted head and eyes over every thing even the bals that were ful and down leg side in the rough. Tremendous peformance, which disguised the fact that it was his first.


    High praise indeed. Even more so when it comes from one of the greatest wicket keepers of modern times..Ian Healy writing in the Hindu this morning !

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJS
    I am surprised how restrained the admiration for Kaarthicks keeping has been in this test. He was quite fantastic on a very difficult wicket.

    Here are the views on his performance by someone who should know a bit about keeping.

    No one could overlook the super cool performance of Dinesh Karthick.... To wicket-keep so crisply in such tough conditions to the hardest of spinners was spectacular by Karthick.

    It was sparkling and fresh to see some levity behind the stumps and he realy wanted every ball. He had his helmeted head and eyes over every thing even the bals that were ful and down leg side in the rough. Tremendous peformance, which disguised the fact that it was his first.


    High praise indeed. Even more so when it comes from one of the greatest wicket keepers of modern times..Ian Healy writing in the Hindu this morning !
    I agree completely. It was a terrific performance for any wicketkeeper, let alone one on debut. This kid should be in the team for a long while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJS
    I am surprised how restrained the admiration for Kaarthicks keeping has been in this test. He was quite fantastic on a very difficult wicket.

    Here are the views on his performance by someone who should know a bit about keeping.

    No one could overlook the super cool performance of Dinesh Karthick.... To wicket-keep so crisply in such tough conditions to the hardest of spinners was spectacular by Karthick.

    It was sparkling and fresh to see some levity behind the stumps and he realy wanted every ball. He had his helmeted head and eyes over every thing even the bals that were ful and down leg side in the rough. Tremendous peformance, which disguised the fact that it was his first.


    High praise indeed. Even more so when it comes from one of the greatest wicket keepers of modern times..Ian Healy writing in the Hindu this morning !


    I think it is the effect of what happened to the last young keeper, who was praised so much. Having said that, I am one of those who believes that he has a very, very bright future ahead of him, if he can put his head down and keep doing the hard work required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jnr.
    The most noticeable thing is that they lost Gilly's 16th Test, where he made a king pair, and they lost his 17th Test, where he made 1 and 1.

    That just goes to show how valuable a player he is.
    I wouldn't say that his lack of performance didn't contribute to the loss, but no player can win a Test match on his own and in the same way no player can lose it.
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