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    2 Champions Trophies vs World Cup

    I was pondering on how much a champions trophy glory might be 'worth' in comparison to a world cup glory.

    Is winning two champions trophies sort of equal to winning a world cup? Would you take 2 champions trophies over a world cup? If not, then 3 champions trophies over a world cup?

    Basically how much is a CT win really worth?

    It's a tournament that is often on the chopping blocks and may not be around in the near future as ICC plan to scrap it again after the next CT in India so maybe that has any bearing on its relative worth?
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    obviously subjective, but I'm pretty sure that most would agree you can't really quantify it in relation to World Cups

    Winning 1 World Cup would be worth more than winning 50 CTs in my book. In fact it's not even close.

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    Champions Trophy by it's very fprmat is a tougher tournament than the World Cup. World Cup obviously has a different brand and standing in the world but I think the Champions Trophy is hugely hugely underrated, although understandably because you feel like why need another world tournament when you have the World Cup.

    The worth is obviously subjective given how much fans value something. It's pretty clear from player's perspective how much it means to them and how hard they try.
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    Yea if you think about it, the CT is much harder. The WC format keeps changing, but generally you get 8 teams going through to a second ground/quarter final stage, and then semis and a final. The first round of games is usually just to eliminate the associates.

    The CT is essentially cuts outs out that first stage of associate bashing, and gets straight into the main tournament. 8 teams, 2 semis, 1 final. Pretty cut and dry.

    I get why the WC has more prestige, but the CT deserves more respect IMO.
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    In a WC, you need to sustain your form for a longer period of time, and avoid upset losses (Ireland and Bangladesh have proven in recent editions that it is not as straightforward as it seems). I'd say it's like winning a Grand Slam vs. the Year End Championships in Tennis.
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    In terms of 'glory' as the OP put it, the CT doesn't even come close to the WC. I'd say even the T20 wc is seen as more prestigious.
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    They should keep the tournament going for sure. I like the idea of having one major Limited Overs tournament per year. So this can be a filler in the years that don't have an ODI WC or a WT20.
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    Love the CT, but I would take a WC over at least 6 CTs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vcs View Post
    In a WC, you need to sustain your form for a longer period of time, and avoid upset losses (Ireland and Bangladesh have proven in recent editions that it is not as straightforward as it seems). I'd say it's like winning a Grand Slam vs. the Year End Championships in Tennis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vcs View Post
    In a WC, you need to sustain your form for a longer period of time, and avoid upset losses (Ireland and Bangladesh have proven in recent editions that it is not as straightforward as it seems). I'd say it's like winning a Grand Slam vs. the Year End Championships in Tennis.
    That was a very different format though and was scrapped to avoid that. The formats since then - the 2011 and 2015 pretty much means 1 off day - upset should not knock you out.
    It was done precisely to prevent the Big teams from getting knocked out.. And the only big team to still get knocked out first round is England but that's because they were crap.
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    I don't think South Africans care too much whether it's the Champions Trophy or the World Cup - actually winning a tournament matters more than which tournament it is.
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    The Champions Trophy is basically the World Cup after the first round - Super Sixes or eights or whatever you call it. It's the cream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Warrior View Post
    The Champions Trophy is basically the World Cup after the first round - Super Sixes or eights or whatever you call it. It's the cream.
    The World Cup only has 10 now, which IMO kind of takes away the Champions Trophy's point of difference.

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    Depends on who wins it. If SA/Pak do it'll be a big thing for their fans. For Ind/Aus fans it's not really that big. Nice to have but as a supplement to the world cups.

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